aceinthehouse Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Dallas with Dak Eagles with Hurtz Washington with Wentz Giants with Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Dallas has the far superior QB. As long as they don’t have a complete meltdown, it’s them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_Giants Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Going with history of an NFC East team not repeating as champs twice in a row in over 15 years I am going with the Eagles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnChimpo Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Cowboys, but the Eagles will make it interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, candyman93 said: Dallas has the far superior QB. As long as they don’t have a complete meltdown, it’s them. Dallas has the far superior QB when he is playing really bad teams. Dude had a 25 TD 10 pick 98 rated season until he hit the lottery with Covid DC, Arizona on a 6 game bender where they only beat Dallas, and Philly's backups. Seriously, Detroit annihilated that Cardinals team He's one of the most overrated players in NFL history. He was better than Hurts last year. He might be better than Hurts this year. He is not special. His record outside the division since his rookie year is abysmal. (18-26, this is not opinion) His record when his team does not run for 120+ is horrific. (this is also not opinion) 2016 - 2-3 2017 - 1-4 2018 - 3-4 2019 - 2-4 2020 - 0-2 (backups were 2-5) 2021 - 1-5 (Cooper Rush was 1-0) That's 9-22 with 3-5 from other Dallas QBs (2020 Foles in Chicago got 57 yards rushing support per game and went 2-5, Dak would have done the same or worse based on his reality) He's just a guy. (a guy who had a unicorn rookie season that was ages ago) Edited May 1, 2022 by SkippyX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 hour ago, SkippyX said: Dallas has the far superior QB when he is playing really bad teams. Dude had a 25 TD 10 pick 98 rated season until he hit the lottery with Covid DC, Arizona on a 6 game bender where they only beat Dallas, and Philly's backups. Seriously, Detroit annihilated that Cardinals team He's one of the most overrated players in NFL history. He was better than Hurts last year. He might be better than Hurts this year. He is not special. His record outside the division since his rookie year is abysmal. (18-26, this is not opinion) His record when his team does not run for 120+ is horrific. (this is also not opinion) 2016 - 2-3 2017 - 1-4 2018 - 3-4 2019 - 2-4 2020 - 0-2 (backups were 2-5) 2021 - 1-5 (Cooper Rush was 1-0) That's 9-22 with 3-5 from other Dallas QBs (2020 Foles in Chicago got 57 yards rushing support per game and went 2-5, Dak would have done the same or worse based on his reality) He's just a guy. (a guy who had a unicorn rookie season that was ages ago) You might be 100% right, but I also think extremely low of Hurts, Wentz, and Jones. So let’s say Dak is average, that’s still way better than the other 3 QBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2j1m Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Eagles need a secondary. If they can, id say them. I actually like Hurtz and the addition of Brown is huge for them. cowboys 11-6 -- Could be either really f-ing good or just good. Does Lamb take that leap as the guy ? eagles 9-8 -- Offense will put up points Commanders- 8-9 -- I think they will be decent. Idk if Wentz can stay healthy but they have an overall average team. Dotson I think could be the sleeper WR of the draft. Giants 4-13 -- Jones is just not it. They will have alot of bright spots to look forward to. They go into next draft as a team in need for a QB. Theyre still 3-4 years away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 3 hours ago, candyman93 said: You might be 100% right, but I also think extremely low of Hurts, Wentz, and Jones. So let’s say Dak is average, that’s still way better than the other 3 QBs. Hurts (counting his running 784 and 10 at 5.6 per) and Wentz were both about average last year. (assuming average is 13-20 or so) You can make a pretty convincing argument Hurts was 16th ahead of Lamar Jackson, Matt Ryan, Goff, Jones, Tua, Teddy, and Tannehill. He was middle of the pack in 4QC and GWD. He was middle of the pack in combined yards per game. He was middle of the pack in TDs created and TDs created vs turnovers. I'm not talking drop back accuracy, I'm talking NFL QB play on the field. (yes, he also beat up on the bad teams last year but it was his first full year) All expectations are that a QB in year 3 as a year 2 starter will improve. He went out of his way to work on mechanics and accuracy (Tom House) this offseason and his weapons improved. Dak is a product of the team around him. It just so happens that the team around him in 2016 was really good. It also happens that the team around him has been way better than the Giants and DC for a while. That team to a big step back on offense this offseason. Brady was not a great QB because he crushed the Bills and Jets, it was everything else he did that made him great. Rodgers kills the Bears and the Lions but he also dominates every else (regular season anyway) Dak's not the guy, not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Dallas is a safe bet, with philly getting a WC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Here's another way to look at it. From 2018 on Cousins has absolutely beyond any doubt been a disappointment in Minnesota. He's 33-29-1 with a 103.9 rating and 1 playoff win. In the same time Dak is 31-22 with a 100.3 and 1 playoff win but he's great? The difference in record is pretty much having to play the .500 Bears and the 45-19-1 Packers instead of 24-41 DC and .500 Philly (NY and Detroit both sucked) And Philly did not show up to one of those games (5 TDs against scrubs, wow!) 2018-now Dak has been less than Cousins but the division shift hides it. Edited May 2, 2022 by SkippyX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Gotta’ take the QB and say Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, SkippyX said: Here's another way to look at it. From 2018 on Cousins has absolutely beyond any doubt been a disappointment in Minnesota. He's 33-29-1 with a 103.9 rating and 1 playoff win. In the same time Dak is 31-22 with a 100.3 and 1 playoff win but he's great? The difference in record is pretty much having to play the .500 Bears and the 45-19-1 Packers instead of 24-41 DC and .500 Philly (NY and Detroit both sucked) And Philly did not show up to one of those games (5 TDs against scrubs, wow!) 2018-now Dak has been less than Cousins but the division shift hides it. #winsareaQBstat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Torn between Dallas and Washington… and Philly certainly has a chance as well. Definitely think the winner is the 4 seed as usual though. If I’m betting money, Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) If you ever find me trying to talk up Jalen Hurts in an attempt to tear down Dak Prescott, just ban me from this forum because clearly I've gone insane. Edited May 2, 2022 by AFlaccoSeagulls 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Go_Giants said: Going with history of an NFC East team not repeating as champs twice in a row in over 15 years I am going with the Eagles. Same, won't be Dallas but honestly not sure who from the other 3 teams wins the East? Injuries will play factory. Edited May 2, 2022 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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