craig Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I do feel like the season will largely hinge on the o-line. The last three playoff losses all involved total domination of our o-lines. The offense last year was pretty average, and with Rodgers another year older and with Adams gone, it should get worse. *IF* the season hypothetically has a storybook ending, I think that will depend on getting happy endings from Bakhti, Jenkins, and the rest of the line. *IF* Bakhti and Jenkins don't come back, or do but at such reduced capacity that they are unable to play at a high level, then I think the offense will struggle too much to win it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Let me ask it this way. If the right No. 3 EDGE player became available, would you pay him Lowry's money? I would in .5 seconds given the current depth at EDGE vs. IDL. Now, we are in a pretty good cap situation so perhaps we wouldn't have to do that. Again, I'm am fine, happy, content, thrilled or whatever other word you want to use to KEEP Lowry. I'll even underline that statement if necessary so people can hopefully read/comprehend it and quit saying "I want to cut him." It is literally just an observation, one that has been talked about by just every Packers beat writer for that matter. I'm not bringing up some out-of-left-field question here. You really feel confident in our DL without Dean Lowry? I don't agree with that one at all. Would I love to improve EDGE3? Absolutely. But downgrading our DL isn't the solution. Ingalls' has us at just under $2.7M I believe in effective cap space, and I think he's on the more pessimistic side of things. Last year, Whitney Mercilus signed a 1 year, $1.075M deal so the Packers have enough cap space to sign a veteran EDGE if one were to become available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: Ingalls' has us at just under $2.7M I believe in effective cap space, and I think he's on the more pessimistic side of things. Care to elaborate on that? Overthecap has us with $16.9M of space. I don't know how many rookies we have left to sign. Or how much to allocate to the practice squad. Or how much we will carryover. But $2.7M seems pretty low to me. $6M would sound about right. -7M for carryover. -4M for PS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, craig said: I do feel like the season will largely hinge on the o-line. The last three playoff losses all involved total domination of our o-lines. The offense last year was pretty average, and with Rodgers another year older and with Adams gone, it should get worse. *IF* the season hypothetically has a storybook ending, I think that will depend on getting happy endings from Bakhti, Jenkins, and the rest of the line. *IF* Bakhti and Jenkins don't come back, or do but at such reduced capacity that they are unable to play at a high level, then I think the offense will struggle too much to win it all. I think you could argue that the Packers over-invested in the OL the last two years. They've got enough bodies that they'll figure it out one way or the other. They drafted 6 OL over the last two seasons for 5 positions, two of which (Bakh and Jenkins) were entrenched before the 2021 draft, and another one was entrenched during the 2021 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, vegas492 said: Care to elaborate on that? Overthecap has us with $16.9M of space. I don't know how many rookies we have left to sign. Or how much to allocate to the practice squad. Or how much we will carryover. But $2.7M seems pretty low to me. $6M would sound about right. -7M for carryover. -4M for PS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I didn't realize that "in season piggy bank" was a line item for NFL teams! Too funny. But, thank you, I get where he is coming from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I thought I read where we had the 10th or so most cap space in the league. If that is true, and those numbers are true, there are 22 other clubs that are really, really hurting and should probably just forfeit now. Especially the Patriots who have 902k left right now. I'd love to see what their "in season piggy bank" fund is like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanLoveFTW Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, vegas492 said: I thought I read where we had the 10th or so most cap space in the league. If that is true, and those numbers are true, there are 22 other clubs that are really, really hurting and should probably just forfeit now. Especially the Patriots who have 902k left right now. I'd love to see what their "in season piggy bank" fund is like. They’ll free up space as they need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonKarman Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, vegas492 said: I thought I read where we had the 10th or so most cap space in the league. If that is true, and those numbers are true, there are 22 other clubs that are really, really hurting and should probably just forfeit now. Especially the Patriots who have 902k left right now. I'd love to see what their "in season piggy bank" fund is like. The thing with us is that we almost have no maneuverability, except for cutting/restructuring Lowry. The rest of the team have a lot more of wiggle room in that sense. We kicked the can much more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, CWood21 said: Why are NLTBE bonuses counted for on this year's cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, VonKarman said: The thing with us is that we almost have no maneuverability, except for cutting/restructuring Lowry. The rest of the team have a lot more of wiggle room in that sense. We kicked the can much more. I kind of saw that when looking at Spotrac the other day. We are pretty maxed out with what we can do for this year. Which is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEagle Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 hours ago, R T said: You are making Reed into some kind of player he is not; he is not taking pass rush snaps from anyone. I don't know a lot about Reed, but isn't that his forte--pass rushing. He's not some run stuffing nose. He has 24 1/2 sacks in his career in the equivalent of about 5 years of starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Why are NLTBE bonuses counted for on this year's cap? It looks like he's factoring in Packers having better luck with injuries. Per game bonuses that are achieved do count this year. Quote Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap It doesn’t drop, it’s just that they have that potential to have to account for more on the cap if their unhealthy 2021 players play more in 2022. They will want to keep that money aside for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEagle Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I wouldn’t read too much into Lowry’s standing in the depth chart. The guys on packers.com said he’s dealing with an undisclosed injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 5 hours ago, packfanfb said: Let me ask it this way. If the right No. 3 EDGE player became available, would you pay him Lowry's money? I would in .5 seconds given the current depth at EDGE vs. IDL. Now, we are in a pretty good cap situation so perhaps we wouldn't have to do that. Again, I'm am fine, happy, content, thrilled or whatever other word you want to use to KEEP Lowry. I'll even underline that statement if necessary so people can hopefully read/comprehend it and quit saying "I want to cut him." It is literally just an observation, one that has been talked about by just every Packers beat writer for that matter. I'm not bringing up some out-of-left-field question here. Maybe, 1 of Lowry, Garvin or Walker is the 3rd EDGE..... so there is no immediate need to add another body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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