CWood21 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Forge said: That's not super crazy given he has another super cheap year. Golden Tate got a 2. Sanu got a 2. Manny a 3 and 4. That contract is really a boon if you believe in the talent. Late 2, 3 and 5 isn't that big of a deal for a true contender And how did those trades turn out for those teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, CWood21 said: And how did those trades turn out for those teams? Really doesn't matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, jrry32 said: Must agree. Physically freakish WR on a rookie contract who produced well the past two years, including 10+ TDs as a rookie. He's worth at least one day two pick. If you're pegging your stake to the guy who had 10 TDs in his rookie season, and then 2 the season after that I'd call you crazy. TDs are largely products of situation. His numbers (aside from TDs) were pretty much the same in his rookie and sophomore seasons. I could see maybe a Day 2 pick plus something else, but a McCaffrey-level package for someone who has proven less (albeit been healthier) is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Forge said: Really doesn't matter. Teams do stupid things all the time. Doesn't mean that your team should do something stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, CWood21 said: Teams do stupid things all the time. Doesn't mean that your team should do something stupid. If you believe in his talent, you don't think you're doing something stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Forge said: If you believe in his talent, you don't think you're doing something stupid. Every team thinks their supporting cast is going to get the most out of a player. I mean, how many teams took a chance on Antonio Brown? You don't think the Bucs thought that Tom Brady would be the perfect person to be around AB? Overpaying based on optimism is a great way to ruin your franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Every team thinks their supporting cast is going to get the most out of a player. I mean, how many teams took a chance on Antonio Brown? You don't think the Bucs thought that Tom Brady would be the perfect person to be around AB? Overpaying based on optimism is a great way to ruin your franchise. Its also how teams get great deals as long as its not that much of an overpay (this applies to contracts as well). People overrate draft picks on here. If we are talking something like pick 58 / 90 / 154, it's really just not that big of a deal. Take a team like KC - if they make this move, the pick can be expected to be late in teh second, they have a comp 3 from Ryan Poles so that's just dealing from surplus and they have like 3 comp 6/7s from various free agents. Dropping a late 5 not a big deal. This can vary team to team, but I wouldn't be overly concerned if I had some additional picks to work with. But again, if we are just talking market value...a solid #2 receiver that has 1.5 years left at a little over 2 million total, a late 2 / 3 / 5 is not out of line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, CWood21 said: If you're pegging your stake to the guy who had 10 TDs in his rookie season, and then 2 the season after that I'd call you crazy. TDs are largely products of situation. His numbers (aside from TDs) were pretty much the same in his rookie and sophomore seasons. I could see maybe a Day 2 pick plus something else, but a McCaffrey-level package for someone who has proven less (albeit been healthier) is crazy. His rookie numbers were good across the board. His sophomore numbers were also solid, particularly knowing the passing game he was in and the limitations of his QB. I didn't argue he's getting a McCaffrey-level package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, jrry32 said: No, the Rams need Kareem Hunt. At least give us Zack Moss if you get Hunt lol. You can have Zack Moss whether we get Hunt or not lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Forge said: That's not super crazy given he has another super cheap year. Golden Tate got a 2. Sanu got a 2. Manny a 3 and 4. That contract is really a boon if you believe in the talent. Late 2, 3 and 5 isn't that big of a deal for a true contender Doesn’t that read as two 2s a 3 and 4? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: Doesn’t that read as two 2s a 3 and 4? You're right, it does. I'm out on that lol. I read it as multiple picks 2/3/5 not multiple seconds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Trentwannabe said: You can have Zack Moss whether we get Hunt or not lol If we can't get Hunt or Antonio Gibson, I'd take him. C.J. Anderson tore it up for us. We could use a power HB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) Wrong thread Edited October 22, 2022 by JonStark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 He wanted to leave the Texans for the longest lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/21/2022 at 10:15 AM, Trentwannabe said: Anyone reputable? I wouldn’t be against it at all for mid round pick and Zack Moss. One year rental that should help. Why would the Browns want Moss? Lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.