Packerraymond Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, R T said: He is amazing after the catch. Now do one with contested catches percentage and watch people hit the brakes. I don't value contested catch rate too highly on guys like QJ or Watson. How many DBs are running with them consistently? They separate. It's important, but it's not getting me to move them down the board. The hands for both of them are a bigger concern for me. QJ isn't quite at the drop rate Watson was, but it isn't stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I'm as casual as they come so take my analysis with a bowl of salt, but when I watch QJ's highlights his play style after the catch reminds me of Laviska Shenault. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: Been trying to tell ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) Take a look at Ben VanSumeren, looks like good day 3 pick just for his RAS. Could be a ST Ace. Edited March 30, 2023 by fattlipp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Fast enough to be fast, not too fast that he goes before 15, like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Since he's being talked about a lot today: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyJoeDavola Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Has anyone looked into the Arkansas center? I am not a fan of taking centers too high and it appears he could be a late round guy that can play but I am a dunce with the Oline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Pro days pretty much come to an end tomorrow with a few exceptions, including Myles Murphy on April 4. We should be hearing a lot more about top 30 visits starting next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Since he's being talked about a lot today: Not bad, but expected him to be a little faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Fast enough to be fast, not too fast that he goes before 15, like it. He looks it on the field for sure, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Fast enough to be fast, not too fast that he goes before 15, like it. He just looked faster than that to me when watching his stuff. But I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBobGray Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, incognito_man said: He looks it on the field for sure, too. You know, I kinda had the same thought, but as I watch more of him this number actually tracks. He's fast, but his big plays he generally is already in space, and is just able to keep the cushion rather than creating more. You don't see him accelerate away from would-be tacklers after he gets the ball, he generally has to rely more on open field running ability at that point (which he has in spades). This isn't to say he's slow; to be clear, dude has serious wheels, but in a straight footrace he's getting dusted by a guy like Christian Watson. The thing I think that makes him look so fast is how sudden he is for a bigger receiver. There's some filthy burst in his game for any receiver, forget just guys his size; I think what we're seeing is a guy who moves like he has a 41" vert, if you follow me. I'm never really a 1st round receiver guy, but whooo boy the thought of QJ and Watson on the outside with an arm like Love's at QB is making me feel some kind of way I'll tell ya. There's just very few guys with that kind of frame that can juke a guy in a phonebooth, and that's on top of his willingness to go get it downfield. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Combine effed up not having this guy there. Has our thresholds in spades to be a guy we look at in the 3-4 round and has some nasty tape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, MrBobGray said: You know, I kinda had the same thought, but as I watch more of him this number actually tracks. He's fast, but his big plays he generally is already in space, and is just able to keep the cushion rather than creating more. You don't see him accelerate away from would-be tacklers after he gets the ball, he generally has to rely more on open field running ability at that point (which he has in spades). This isn't to say he's slow; to be clear, dude has serious wheels, but in a straight footrace he's getting dusted by a guy like Christian Watson. The thing I think that makes him look so fast is how sudden he is for a bigger receiver. There's some filthy burst in his game for any receiver, forget just guys his size; I think what we're seeing is a guy who moves like he has a 41" vert, if you follow me. I'm never really a 1st round receiver guy, but whooo boy the thought of QJ and Watson on the outside with an arm like Love's at QB is making me feel some kind of way I'll tell ya. There's just very few guys with that kind of frame that can juke a guy in a phonebooth, and that's on top of his willingness to go get it downfield. Agreed with this. I've been kinda anti-WR lately, but you can't argue that the league values them more than every other position except QB and EDGE currently. And QJ stands alone in the first probably 3 rounds of this draft for a skilled HWS guy. Would be very very happy to land him at 15 if the top EDGE guys are gone. @Packerraymond had a good observation about QJ seeming to have eyes in the back of his head. No wasted steps. So he looks every bit of his timed speed (and more) while playing. He, Watson and Doubs would be an absolute dynamite trio for Jordan to grow with. It's gonna come down to QJ/EDGE/OT if we stay at 15 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Combine effed up not having this guy there. Has our thresholds in spades to be a guy we look at in the 3-4 round and has some nasty tape. He also missed the covid season and two season due to injury and was born in 1987. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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