beekay414 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Enough with the thumb. He was missing throws before he hurt the thumb. It just became a convenient excuse as the season wore on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 14 hours ago, Sandy said: Same with guys like Z Smith, PSmith, Amos, etc - it was because of top dollar. But I'm referring more to the traded QB who gets the FAs. Just a trend I noticed. Patriots and Colts weren't unusually active in FA and such. When Brady and Peyton moved to new teams, it's like a call went out - get ya Super Bowl Rings hee-aah! I feel like if we released Bakh...he'd follow Rodgers. Maybe Lewis would for a year or two. Cobb would. (Also, not advocating for releasing Bakh) Outside of that? I don't think so. I don't think Rodgers has the Super Bowl vibe like Manning and Brady did. And really, only Bakh is on a level that some of those Brady followers were. And I just don't feel like Lazard wants to play with Rodgers anymore. Just a feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, vegas492 said: I feel like if we released Bakh...he'd follow Rodgers. Maybe Lewis would for a year or two. Cobb would. (Also, not advocating for releasing Bakh) Outside of that? I don't think so. I don't think Rodgers has the Super Bowl vibe like Manning and Brady did. And really, only Bakh is on a level that some of those Brady followers were. And I just don't feel like Lazard wants to play with Rodgers anymore. Just a feeling. Bakh could be part of the Rodgers trade package. It really depends on what they think of those rookie tackles. If, and I know this is a long shot, Jones or Walker could play LT at a decent level next year, we could move Tom to center. As athletic as he is he could do some of the Jason Kelce things inside. I know he's going to get a lot stronger this off season too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Enough with the thumb. He was missing throws before he hurt the thumb. It just became a convenient excuse as the season wore on. I also feel like he also was hitting more throws when the thumb got healthy. It is not a convenient excuse in my book, it is a very real excuse. Without doing the research prior...let's see what I find. He said he hurt it at the end of Week 5. 10/09/2022 He said it was "feeling a lot better" on 12/13/2022. Packers record through 5 weeks. 3-2. Packers record 12/19 through end of season. 3-1. So, 6-3. If the dates match up to the injured and being "better". 2-6 with a hurt thumb. Let's look at stats. Weeks 1-5 (Not injured). 114 completions. 168 attempts. 67.8%. 1157 yards. 231 average. 8 TDs. 3 Int. Weeks 15-18 (Feeling better). 78 completions. 119 attempts. 65.5%. 831 yards. 208 average. 4 TDs. 3 Int. Weeks 6-14 (Injured). 158 completions. 255 attempts. 62%. 1707 yards. 213 average. 14 TDs. 6 Int. Not sure what that really tells you, or me. But darn it, I looked the stats up and did the math! And...I feel like drops were a constant throughout the year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Bakh could be part of the Rodgers trade package. It really depends on what they think of those rookie tackles. If, and I know this is a long shot, Jones or Walker could play LT at a decent level next year, we could move Tom to center. As athletic as he is he could do some of the Jason Kelce things inside. I know he's going to get a lot stronger this off season too. I'm not trading Bakh unless he demands it and we get at least a first round pick. I'm also not wanting to touch that deal anymore. Pay as you go. LT is the most important spot on the line. I'm not moving someone who can be solid there when hoping he will be okay at center. And I'm not trusting Walker (Humper) or a UDFA with weight issues on that side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusGluteus Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Bakh could be part of the Rodgers trade package. It really depends on what they think of those rookie tackles. If, and I know this is a long shot, Jones or Walker could play LT at a decent level next year, we could move Tom to center. As athletic as he is he could do some of the Jason Kelce things inside. I know he's going to get a lot stronger this off season too. Nah man, Tom is 23, so he's already maxed out. Edited February 1, 2023 by MaximusGluteus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Enough with the thumb. He was missing throws before he hurt the thumb. It just became a convenient excuse as the season wore on. I mean let's be real. Given your sentiment about 12 over the last few years, if he lost his legs in an auto accident, you, AG and few others would be saying "that's no excuse." Lol. I think a reasonable response is: the thumb certainly was an issue, as any throwing hand injury would be, but also certainly not an excuse for his pretty dramatic drop off in play from the prior two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Bakh could be part of the Rodgers trade package. It really depends on what they think of those rookie tackles. If, and I know this is a long shot, Jones or Walker could play LT at a decent level next year, we could move Tom to center. As athletic as he is he could do some of the Jason Kelce things inside. I know he's going to get a lot stronger this off season too. Why would we trade BAK? Dont see that one at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, packfanfb said: I mean let's be real. Given your sentiment about 12 over the last few years, if he lost his legs in an auto accident, you, AG and few others would be saying "that's no excuse." Lol. I think a reasonable response is: the thumb certainly was an issue, as any throwing hand injury would be, but also certainly not an excuse for his pretty dramatic drop off in play from the prior two years. If it was such an issue, he shouldn't have been playing considering he was hindering the team and it directly lead to losses. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Edited February 1, 2023 by beekay414 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: If it was such an issue, he shouldn't have been playing considering he was hindering the team and it directly lead to losses. You can't have your cake and eat it too. We actually agree here. LaFleur doesn't have any big-boy pants in his closet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, packfanfb said: We actually agree here. LaFleur doesn't have any big-boy pants in his closet though. And 12 should've put the team before himself but since we both know he's incapable of that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, beekay414 said: If it was such an issue, he shouldn't have been playing considering he was hindering the team and it directly lead to losses. You can't have your cake and eat it too. I don't think anyone here is disputing what you said in this post. Rodgers absolutely has his cake and is eating it. Our front office did that with his contract and with how they treated him prior to signing that deal. Not saying I agree with it at all. But that is the way it went down. His hurt thumb hurt his play. But he was not hurt enough to have the doctors rule him out. And we didn't have the spine to tell him to sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 46 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Enough with the thumb. He was missing throws before he hurt the thumb. It just became a convenient excuse as the season wore on. Sshhhhhhh This is the exact wrong message we want to get out right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, beekay414 said: And 12 should've put the team before himself but since we both know he's incapable of that... At which point you would accuse him of being a quitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, ThatJerkDave said: At which point you would accuse him of being a quitter. lmao then you have no idea what you're talking about, my dude. Maybe you should sit this one out. Edited February 1, 2023 by beekay414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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