AZ_Eaglesfan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Yin-Yang said: Side note, I also don’t love sending all three receivers flying down the field either. Almost two minutes left on the clock, all you needed was a first. Have a crosser or a comeback just past the marker so you have something other than a heave or a check down. Shrug. That’s hindsight, though. The call sucked as bad as the execution for sure. You have Justin Jefferson on your team and that is the play you draw up on 4th and 8? Gross. Let 18 carry you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y*so*blu Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, squire12 said: 3 options going deep and Hockenson short. I guess they liked that matchup and wanted to isolate Hock. If it was an option route, going inside was probably the better one as you remove the sideline as a defender I'm sure they liked the matchup. Hock was consistently burning us. Until it mattered most, thank the football gods. Edited January 16, 2023 by y*so*blu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49ersfan Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) Kayvon did the griddy on the Vikings logo? He also did the sack celebration when Foles was injured and then did the "go to sleep" gesture later on to the Colts Thibs is a villain origin story Edited January 16, 2023 by 49ersfan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 That 4th down has somewhat saved KJ Osborne from the fallout he deserves for dropping the big third down pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, 49ersfan said: Kayvon did the griddy on the Vikings logo? He also did the sack celebration when Foles was injured and then did the "go to sleep" gesture later on to the Colts Thibs is a villain origin story Yup. I love it. The NFL needs a villain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, ChazStandard said: That 4th down has somewhat saved KJ Osborne from the fallout he deserves for dropping the big third down pass. Wouldn't call that a drop. Defender had his hand in between the ball and KJ's chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, ChazStandard said: That 4th down has somewhat saved KJ Osborne from the fallout he deserves for dropping the big third down pass. i thought that was a pretty good defensive play getting his hands on the ball/stripping down on the arms. Was that pass a little behind Osborn? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, NoFlyZone said: No, there is nothing substantive behind this idea. It’s just a lazy, empty take. Well, except history and math. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I have no opinion on either team but I do feel a bit bad for Vikings fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr A W Niloc Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Yin-Yang said: Yeaaah, hard pass. Throwing short of the sticks (especially that short) on 4th down is a dumb idea about 99% of the time Yes and no. It is a very good idea when the defense is playing loose, such that the receiver can meander to a first down before contact. It is a very poor idea when the receiver is wearing a defender like a cape, as was the case here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimonas Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, tab said: I have no opinion on either team but I do feel a bit bad for Vikings fans i don't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dr A W Niloc said: Yes and no. It is a very good idea when the defense is playing loose, such that the receiver can meander to a first down before contact. It is a very poor idea when the receiver is wearing a defender like a cape, as was the case here. depends on who the pass catcher is. Tyreek Hill, JJ, Deebo, those players getting a pass short of the sticks and converting is a bit different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, AZ_Eaglesfan said: The call sucked as bad as the execution for sure. You have Justin Jefferson on your team and that is the play you draw up on 4th and 8? Gross. Let 18 carry you. Teams have figured out you take 18 out of the game and the vikes can’t do a whole lot else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr A W Niloc Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, squire12 said: depends on who the pass catcher is. Tyreek Hill, JJ, Deebo, those players getting a pass short of the sticks and converting is a bit different Well, the WRs are usually the ones forcing the defense back while the RB or TE works underneath. The pass itself is high percentage, irrespective of target. It's a matter of execution: if there's a defender on the screen when the pass is caught it shouldn't have been thrown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, Dr A W Niloc said: Yes and no. It is a very good idea when the defense is playing loose, such that the receiver can meander to a first down before contact. It is a very poor idea when the receiver is wearing a defender like a cape, as was the case here. I’m certainly scarred from a year of a Matt Patricia led offense, but how often do you see players so wide open on 4th down that they can just waltz past the sticks? Especially on a 4th-and-medium/long. Maybe on 4th-and-short where you can cause some confusion at/behind the LOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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