FrantikRam Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I don't think it impacts his legacy all that much, but I personally think he's on track to be the GOAT. So a loss to Burrow would do mean I could no longer in good faith have Mahomes over him - 4 in a row and two playoff wins would be too much to overlook. Especially when Mahomes likely had the better team for two of those meetings at least. So it probably throw him off the GOAT track as well. I also think another loss has psychological impact at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, FrantikRam said: I don't think it impacts his legacy all that much, but I personally think he's on track to be the GOAT. So a loss to Burrow would do mean I could no longer in good faith have Mahomes over him - 4 in a row and two playoff wins would be too much to overlook. Especially when Mahomes likely had the better team for two of those meetings at least. So it probably throw him off the GOAT track as well. I also think another loss has psychological impact at this point. How is he currently on track to be the GOAT? He'd need at least 6 more Super Bowl wins to be in the conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 hours ago, ET80 said: I don’t think it does at all - his initial success set the bar so incredibly high, even a few hits will bring it down a bit, but it’s still a HoF trajectory. Dan Marino did less at this point in his career - and didn’t exactly win from this point in his career onwards - but nobody really questioned his validity, he was a walking HoFer in a golden age of QBs. Mahomes is no different, really… except he’s accomplished more. Obviously Mahomes is an all timer but a loss Sunday hurts his chance at potentially being the GOAT one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: Obviously Mahomes is an all timer but a loss Sunday hurts his chance at potentially being the GOAT one day. I mean - if at any point he wins three in a row, he’ll immediately get back in the discussion. Too early to DQ him from GOAT talk - I mean, it took Tom Brady nine years to go from 3 to 4; Prior to that, he was behind Joe Montana and I’m pretty sure everyone figured Montana would hold onto that title by year six or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizter_Clean10 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 9 hours ago, NYRaider said: How does a loss impact Mahomes legacy? A little but now much, a win on a bum ankle that should have him out for weeks though? That’s “Jordan flu game” stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjohns Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 14 hours ago, NYRaider said: How is he currently on track to be the GOAT? He'd need at least 6 more Super Bowl wins to be in the conversation. This is an aggressively bad take. Suppose maybe if you're a boomer that thinks Bill Russell is the GOAT in basketball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevators_rule Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 21 minutes ago, jimmyjohns said: This is an aggressively bad take. Suppose maybe if you're a boomer that thinks Bill Russell is the GOAT in basketball. idk about 6, but there's a 0% chance he can overtake Brady as the GOAT unless he wins at least 3 more rings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr A W Niloc Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, elevators_rule said: idk about 6, but there's a 0% chance he can overtake Brady as the GOAT unless he wins at least 3 more rings. Even that might not be necessary in the Fantasy Football era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeotheLion Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 31 minutes ago, elevators_rule said: idk about 6, but there's a 0% chance he can overtake Brady as the GOAT unless he wins at least 3 more rings. Everyone can define GOAT differently, but 4 rings is probably where I'd entertain the idea that Mahomes should be above Brady. Rings matter, but not as much as in basketball when 1 player can have a much bigger impact on winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Saw a take elsewhere that Mahomes will "lose again at home" and he's becoming Peyton Manning. Won a SB his second season as a starter. Has a 9-3 playoff record. Has only ever played home playoff games (alongside two Super Bowls). Yeah, he's really not a big-game player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Mahomes looks healthy anyways, walking around no problem, jogging etc. Maybe he did a bit of acting in the last game to distract the bengals . This should be a great game, and some snow will add to this as well as the great venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 20 hours ago, ET80 said: I mean - if at any point he wins three in a row, he’ll immediately get back in the discussion. Too early to DQ him from GOAT talk - I mean, it took Tom Brady nine years to go from 3 to 4; Prior to that, he was behind Joe Montana and I’m pretty sure everyone figured Montana would hold onto that title by year six or so. Oh don't you worry. Joe is still the GOAT, because..."rougher era" and...still with his swimsuit model wife, and "stuff"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 23 hours ago, NYRaider said: How is he currently on track to be the GOAT? He'd need at least 6 more Super Bowl wins to be in the conversation. That's the RINGZZZZ argument I thought was only used for the NBA GOAT debate. I guess I was wrong. Football being the ultimate team sport, someone could easily pass Brady without the Super Bowl wins. And Mahomes first few years are significantly better than Brady's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevators_rule Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, TecmoSuperJoe said: Oh don't you worry. Joe is still the GOAT, because..."rougher era" and...still with his swimsuit model wife, and "stuff"... Only people who put Montana as the GOAT are 9ers fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevators_rule Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, FrantikRam said: That's the RINGZZZZ argument I thought was only used for the NBA GOAT debate. I guess I was wrong. Football being the ultimate team sport, someone could easily pass Brady without the Super Bowl wins. And Mahomes first few years are significantly better than Brady's Every ring you take away from Mahomes makes it unrealistically more difficult for him to pass Brady. If he never wins another ring, what career stats would he need to reasonably pass Brady as the greatest of all time (which I differentiate from "best" of all time)? It would have to be something absurd, better than he currently has. If he gets 4 rings, that would make him more on pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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