Chase Young's 5th Year Option

[MKnight82]

On 3/28/2023 at 10:27 AM, NYRaider said:

His 5th year option is projected to be $17.5M and it'd cost like $19.7M to tag him. Sounds like it might make more sense to decline it and tag him if you need too.

Ya but generally players look at a 5th year option as favorable and a franchise tag as unfavorable.  If the plan is to extend him long term eventually I think you're better off using the 5th year option.

[MKnight82]

He's basically had 3 phases to his career so far:

Phase 1: pretty impressive rookie year with 7.5 sacks, 4 FF and a bunch of pressures.  Took home DROY honors and looked like a legitimate star in the making. 

Phase 2: headscratcher of a sophomore slump with 1.5 sacks through 9 games before getting injured.  Generally looked like he was out of position or over pursuing at times.  There were some leaks coming out to the media of him chasing individual stats instead of playing within the scheme.  The defense honestly looked better after he got injured.  

Phase 3: significant long recovery from a major knee injury.  Played minimal snaps last season after the recovery.  

 

So the major questions are, is he the player that made so many impact players his rookie season or the one that was a wildcard out of position his second?  And, has he recovered from his knee injury? I think I would be more inclined to use the 5th year option to get another year to evaluate this guy.  One thing to point out too is that if we are stuck with having to use the franchise tag on Young that would prevent us from having the ability to use it on someone else (like say Kam Curl). 

[lavar703]

31 minutes ago, MKnight82 said:

He's basically had 3 phases to his career so far:

Phase 1: pretty impressive rookie year with 7.5 sacks, 4 FF and a bunch of pressures.  Took home DROY honors and looked like a legitimate star in the making. 

Phase 2: headscratcher of a sophomore slump with 1.5 sacks through 9 games before getting injured.  Generally looked like he was out of position or over pursuing at times.  There were some leaks coming out to the media of him chasing individual stats instead of playing within the scheme.  The defense honestly looked better after he got injured.  

Phase 3: significant long recovery from a major knee injury.  Played minimal snaps last season after the recovery.  

 

So the major questions are, is he the player that made so many impact players his rookie season or the one that was a wildcard out of position his second?  And, has he recovered from his knee injury? I think I would be more inclined to use the 5th year option to get another year to evaluate this guy.  One thing to point out too is that if we are stuck with having to use the franchise tag on Young that would prevent us from having the ability to use it on someone else (like say Kam Curl). 

Not to mention if you pick up the 5th year option and you pay Kam Curl, you can then use the franchise tag on Montez Sweat which allows you to keep them both for another year at a semi-cost controlled deal. 

[ET80]

I’d say move him while his value is relatively high - it’s still up in the air as to whether or not he’ll return to form, but someone out there is going to evaluate him based on his good flashes and give up a reasonable amount.

Washington has a pretty deep front seven, it’s not like Chase was a lynchpin in that front - as others said, it actually looked better without him. Get a return and use the assets gained in the transaction to build up other parts of the team.

[D82]

Just now, ET80 said:

I’d say move him while his value is relatively high - it’s still up in the air as to whether or not he’ll return to form, but someone out there is going to evaluate him based on his good flashes and give up a reasonable amount.

Washington has a pretty deep front seven, it’s not like Chase was a lynchpin in that front - as others said, it actually looked better without him. Get a return and use the assets gained in the transaction to build up other parts of the team.

That would be the smart move. 

[MKnight82]

5 minutes ago, ET80 said:

Washington has a pretty deep front seven

We actually don't have depth at DE.  Trading Young would create a massive hole at DE, with little to no depth already there as well. 

[NYRaider]

4 minutes ago, ET80 said:

I’d say move him while his value is relatively high - it’s still up in the air as to whether or not he’ll return to form, but someone out there is going to evaluate him based on his good flashes and give up a reasonable amount.

Washington has a pretty deep front seven, it’s not like Chase was a lynchpin in that front - as others said, it actually looked better without him. Get a return and use the assets gained in the transaction to build up other parts of the team.

What do you think he'd net in a trade?

[AkronsWitness]

1 minute ago, D82 said:

That would be the smart move. 

or extend him for a modest amount while his value is at his lowest because of injury and then reap the benefits when he gets healthy and hits his potential as a double digit sack guy. 

It would be one thing if he just has played horribly, but given its because he hasn't been healthy-- I would have a hard time parting ways with a player with his potential/talent for pennies on the dollar, then having to sit back and play the what-if game if he goes somewhere else and starts producing healthy.

[MKnight82]

1 minute ago, NYRaider said:

What do you think he'd net in a trade?

They wouldn't get a first.  With his name recognition maybe a 2nd.  I don't think that is worth trading him, he still has star upside. 

[aceinthehouse]

This is what you do....

Sweat is on his final year & Young is waiting for the 5th year option.

You dangle Chase Young for trade during the draft. With the intention of drafting DT Jalen Carter. 

If you can get him at #16? Great. If not, use Young to trade up to get him.

Then you either move Johnathan Allen to DE, or play Jalen Carter at DE. Both have pass rushing abilities & the speed & power to take the edge.

Then you give Sweat a new contract & lock him up. ( Or tag him, if necessary)

This gives you a D-line of Sweat, Payne, Allen & Carter for years.

Keep the strength of your team, strong.

Edited March 29, 2023 by aceinthehouse

[BetterCallSaul]

1 minute ago, aceinthehouse said:

Then you either move Johnathan Allen to DE, or play Jalen Carter at DE. Both have pass rushing abilities & the speed & power to take the edge.

This would be dumb. You don’t want to play Allen or Carter at DE. Especially Carter. 

[NYRaider]

2 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said:

This is what you do....

Sweat is on his final year & Young is waiting for the 5th year option.

You dangle Chase Young for trade during the draft. With the intention of drafting DT Jalen Carter. 

If you can get him at #16? Great. If not, use Young to trade up to get him.

Then you either move Johnathan Allen to DE, or play Jalen Carter at DE. Both have pass rushing abilities & the speed & power to take the edge.

Then you give Sweat a new contract & lock him up. ( Or tag him, if necessary)

This gives you a D-line of Sweat, Payne, Allen & Carter for years.

Keep the strength of your team, strong.

Create a hole by moving up to fill it?

[Slappy Mc]

4 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said:

This is what you do....

Sweat is on his final year & Young is waiting for the 5th year option.

You dangle Chase Young for trade during the draft. With the intention of drafting DT Jalen Carter. 

If you can get him at #16? Great. If not, use Young to trade up to get him.

Then you either move Johnathan Allen to DE, or play Jalen Carter at DE. Both have pass rushing abilities & the speed & power to take the edge.

Then you give Sweat a new contract & lock him up. ( Or tag him, if necessary)

This gives you a D-line of Sweat, Payne, Allen & Carter for years.

Keep the strength of your team, strong.

[Soko]

4 hours ago, lavar703 said:

Not to mention if you pick up the 5th year option and you pay Kam Curl, you can then use the franchise tag on Montez Sweat which allows you to keep them both for another year at a semi-cost controlled deal. 

A $38M cap hit for two DEs probably isn’t all that “semi-cost controlled”. That’d probably be the most expensive duo in the league based on cap hits in 2024 (Chandler Jones will be cut by then and Parsons/Bosa aren’t going to have big hits in Year 1).

[Louis Friend]

36 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said:

This is what you do....

Sweat is on his final year & Young is waiting for the 5th year option.

You dangle Chase Young for trade during the draft. With the intention of drafting DT Jalen Carter. 

If you can get him at #16? Great. If not, use Young to trade up to get him.

Then you either move Johnathan Allen to DE, or play Jalen Carter at DE. Both have pass rushing abilities & the speed & power to take the edge.

Then you give Sweat a new contract & lock him up. ( Or tag him, if necessary)

This gives you a D-line of Sweat, Payne, Allen & Carter for years.

Keep the strength of your team, strong.

Who is going to trade down out of Jalen Carter to take Chase Young on bigger money contract?