Chiefer Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, incognito_man said: oh no...you're projecting now Look Love has time to turn it around, but good gawd he’s playing brutally awful right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, incognito_man said: oh no...you're projecting now Oh, has Anger entered the chat? Please tell me anger has entered the chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, ET80 said: Oh, has Anger entered the chat? Please tell me anger has entered the chat. Im glad i just go right to acceptance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Chiefer said: Look Love has time to turn it around, but good gawd he’s playing brutally awful right now he's really not. not if you watch the game closely the entire offense is maddeningly inconsistent. The majority of those "terrible" throws people think they see are attributable to bad routes. Love has gotten skittish the last few weeks (for good reason), but he needs to work on consistency with his footwork and not moving himself into trouble he doesn't need to. The deep passing game is as much WRs fault as his. His interception today? the guy has his BACK to the QB and came away w/ the INT because Jayden Reen literally handed him the football. People see the box score, but not the actual on-the-field play. Anyone who thinks Jordan Love is personally playing brutally doesn't really understand football. He's been absolutely fine. He's made some wow throws and he's made some really bad throws. He's missed some reads lately, but showed the ability to progress through a route tree when not being murdered by free-running DE. The offense is beyond frustrating because we have one player who is not on a rookie contract (Aaron Jones) who has missed more than half the snaps this year himself. The penalties put this offense in situations that are totally unmanageable game after game. The only way anyone can get a proper read (and therefore able to make an informed comment) is if you've watched the all-22. It's nearly impossible to judge any of the skills on that side of the ball right now because the entire product is such a mess. But Love is probably our 4th best offensive player right now. He's not playing brutally and anyone who tells you that truly doesn't understand the situation or actual football (or both). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, incognito_man said: he's really not. not if you watch the game closely the entire offense is maddeningly inconsistent. The majority of those "terrible" throws people think they see are attributable to bad routes. Love has gotten skittish the last few weeks (for good reason), but he needs to work on consistency with his footwork and not moving himself into trouble he doesn't need to. The deep passing game is as much WRs fault as his. His interception today? the guy has his BACK to the QB and came away w/ the INT because Jayden Reen literally handed him the football. People see the box score, but not the actual on-the-field play. Anyone who thinks Jordan Love is personally playing brutally doesn't really understand football. He's been absolutely fine. He's made some wow throws and he's made some really bad throws. He's missed some reads lately, but showed the ability to progress through a route tree when not being murdered by free-running DE. The offense is beyond frustrating because we have one player who is not on a rookie contract (Aaron Jones) who has missed more than half the snaps this year himself. The penalties put this offense in situations that are totally unmanageable game after game. The only way anyone can get a proper read (and therefore able to make an informed comment) is if you've watched the all-22. It's nearly impossible to judge any of the skills on that side of the ball right now because the entire product is such a mess. But Love is probably our 4th best offensive player right now. He's not playing brutally and anyone who tells you that truly doesn't understand the situation or actual football (or both). How much are you paying him on his next contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, Pool said: How much are you paying him on his next contract? Reset the market, please 🙏🏼 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, incognito_man said: he's really not. not if you watch the game closely the entire offense is maddeningly inconsistent. The majority of those "terrible" throws people think they see are attributable to bad routes. Love has gotten skittish the last few weeks (for good reason), but he needs to work on consistency with his footwork and not moving himself into trouble he doesn't need to. The deep passing game is as much WRs fault as his. His interception today? the guy has his BACK to the QB and came away w/ the INT because Jayden Reen literally handed him the football. People see the box score, but not the actual on-the-field play. Anyone who thinks Jordan Love is personally playing brutally doesn't really understand football. He's been absolutely fine. He's made some wow throws and he's made some really bad throws. He's missed some reads lately, but showed the ability to progress through a route tree when not being murdered by free-running DE. The offense is beyond frustrating because we have one player who is not on a rookie contract (Aaron Jones) who has missed more than half the snaps this year himself. The penalties put this offense in situations that are totally unmanageable game after game. The only way anyone can get a proper read (and therefore able to make an informed comment) is if you've watched the all-22. It's nearly impossible to judge any of the skills on that side of the ball right now because the entire product is such a mess. But Love is probably our 4th best offensive player right now. He's not playing brutally and anyone who tells you that truly doesn't understand the situation or actual football (or both). My brother in Christ, Love has an F+ completion percentage, you need help. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, Chiefer said: My brother in Christ, Love has an F+ completion percentage, you need help. Stage 4 denial. Most of us have been there. Hopefully he's in his early 20's or it may be too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 @ET80 I propose you merge any threads regarding Jordan Love and Desmond Ridder, and see if anyone can even tell that two different QBs are being discussed. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Chiefer said: My brother in Christ, Love has an F+ completion percentage, you need help. You haven't watched a single game I bet lolz Box score scout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey Lance Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, incognito_man said: You haven't watched a single game I bet lolz Box score scout 4 hours ago, incognito_man said: oh no...you're projecting now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanLegend Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 42 minutes ago, incognito_man said: You haven't watched a single game I bet lolz Box score scout Love is early in his career, particularly starts wise, so he has time to fix it, but there does eventually come a time where "X didn't do this right, it's not his fault" "this play call was the problem, not his play" doesn't really cut it. Those things can be and probably is in a lot of the cases, true. But there comes a point where that's just not cutting it. To be a franchise QB, you have to elevate your team above the problems it has. Saw this first hand quite recently with Mariota in the Titans fan base. Mariota was better than his box score stats indicated his last couple years in Tennessee. He made more good plays than the stats indicated. He was a victim of receivers messing up, Terry Robiskie being stuck in 1954 with his play calls at times, etc, etc, all of that was true..but he never reached a point where he elevated those around him. You're not looking for a QB that only succeeds when everything around him is running at a high level. Which is likely what results in everyone outside of the fanbase who watches every snap of the QB piling on to him. As fans did with Mariota. As they're doing with Love. As was done with probably any other first round QB who is looked at as just meh or whatever. For a QB to be accepted by the wide majority of NFL fans as good(or better), they have to make good plays out of bad play calls sometimes. They have to make mediocre WRs look good. I think I tend to agree more with you and Love(and someone like Ridder) needs more time before everyone just piles on them with the bad label, but probably also fair to note that it's year 3 for him and he got to spend 2 years watching one of the best to ever play the position(and is of course in year 3 of this system), so more is probably expected of him than, say, if he were your first round pick this season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: You haven't watched a single game I bet lolz Box score scout I watched the Raider game, and seen a few video analysis. The bad is far outweighing the good Edited October 30, 2023 by Chiefer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Jakuvious said: @ET80 I propose you merge any threads regarding Jordan Love and Desmond Ridder, and see if anyone can even tell that two different QBs are being discussed. How about we add in Sam Howell and get ace to join this party...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 hours ago, TitanLegend said: For a QB to be accepted by the wide majority of NFL fans as good(or better), they have to make good plays out of bad play calls sometimes. They have to make mediocre WRs look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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