Nnivolcm Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, viking said: High quality post bud thank you. What can someone say to counter homerism? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Nnivolcm said: What can someone say to counter homerism? 13.4k posts of trash & 0 NFL knowledge - truly amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnivolcm Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, viking said: 13.4k posts of trash & 0 NFL knowledge - truly amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, viking said: 13.4k posts of trash & 0 NFL knowledge - truly amazing Cut it out. Next time you have an issue with a poster, I suggest you use the ignore function. - ET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I don’t think you understand the power dynamic here, @viking I ask you to stop. So… you’re going to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, ET80 said: I don’t think you understand the power dynamic here, @viking. I ask you to stop. So… you’re going to stop. You’re more than welcome to take your business elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, ET80 said: 4 minutes ago, ET80 said: I don’t think you understand the power dynamic here, @viking. I ask you to stop. So… you’re going to stop. You’re more than welcome to take your business elsewhere. Last time. Lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, ET80 said: Last time. Lions. any additions to your opinion? or just one word answers and single gifs is the standard now on the forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, viking said: any additions to your opinion? Not an opinion. Use the ignore functions next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 27 minutes ago, ET80 said: Lions. Ultimately, I think the Lions have a diverse passing attack led by a QB we all gave up on in Jared Goff. You got Amon Ra in the slot, you have Jahmyr Gibbs as a satellite RB, it’s a solid offense that can go. Defensively, you have an ascending Aiden Hutchinson and a secondary that should have some parts that can make plays. All in all - I think the Lions have the best coaching staff of the division, which is where the difference comes from. Dan Campbell isn’t an Xs and Os guy, but he gets this guts playing above their pay grade - that’s a valuable trait that can carry a team. This all goes out the window if Jordan Love took to his time on the bench to improve - but he had a lot to improve on, so I don’t know if this is really a thing to worry about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduperman Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) To be fair, there's a lot of new stuff for the Lions to get working together right out of the box. But the established part, that will continue to be good, are the offensive line and the passing game. I think that they're an above .500 team even if significant things go wrong. To say you have no faith in Goff, well, I don't take it for granted he'll be a top-5 QB but he's done enough and shown enough improvement in Detroit to get some respect. Edited July 17, 2023 by Superduperman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 19 hours ago, Spartacus said: I actually agree with your first portion regarding the offense. I think Mattison steps right into that role without losing a step. Just having Jefferson and Hock is enough for a decent offense but I still think there is talent across that group. The offensive line is maybe average to above average but I think it still light and if any injuries occur could quickly turn into a dumpster fire. My problem is I don't see any improvement on defense in fact wouldn't be surprised if they were somehow worse. Say what you want about Z the second half of the year he was probably the best defensive player in the first half of the year. Outside of Hunter where is the talent? Frankly even Hunter looks like he took a step back with the stacking injuries. Defensive line looks pretty stout IMO but no real stars there. You have a whole bunch of guys with little to no experience and the ones that do haven' really shown much of anything in the secondary. Blackmon, Evans, Booth have a combined 3 GS and no interceptions. None have shown a consistent ability to even be above average CBs at the NFL level. At safety you have an old Harrison Smith & Bynum/Cine who haven't shown anything great really. That secondary is at best a question mark and at worse atrocious. The LBs are led by Asamoah who should be at least decent but is he a star? You replaced one old breaking down LB with another going from Kendricks to Hicks and you replaced Smith with Davenport. I don't really see the upgrade there in fact wouldn't be shocked if he is worse then Z but I don't mind that replacement. Davenport I think can be better than people think. If he was a UFA two years ago he is making big money. He came in league really raw. You watch him and he can just toss guys at times. Things he shouldn’t be able to do, but can. Then he disappears for awhile. He strikes me as a guy who will be really up and down going forward. Like a Quinn. I wouldn’t be shocked if he has a surprise big year (relatively speaking) in MN. Then lays an egg following year. MN secondary and LBs are not scary. Yes the vets were paid a lot and slowing down, but those were long time good football players and leaders. A lot of knowledge and leadership just left building all at once. That isn’t nothing. MN will need to put points on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 People pick Detroit because they have most talent in division. They added a lot in last few years with all the high picks they have had. It isn’t that hard. Jameson getting suspended after being hurt most of first year sucks for them though. He is an explosive player that has to be accounted for. Still not a huge Goff guy. I think talent around him makes him better rather than other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Are we underrating the Vikings in this thread? I know all indications point to a drop off from last year, but have we gone too far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: Are we underrating the Vikings in this thread? I know all indications point to a drop off from last year, but have we gone too far? If you think it’s clear cut that the Lions win the division, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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