CP3MVP Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) Another part in my series. I’ve asked about the following QBs like prime Russ, Rivers, Ryan, Romo, Ben. What about Eli. so let’s say you put prime/peak Eli in todays NFL, where would be rank among current Qbs. His peak season was 2011 Edited December 24, 2023 by CP3MVP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) Top 5 for sure. We'd be taking a hall of game QB, in his prime, into 2023, where QB play across the league is underwhelming. Easily top 5. Edited December 24, 2023 by minutemancl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 His career high passer rating would put him tied for 11th this year. So I'm going with 11-15. He had 14 seasons where he was the starter all season. 5 times he had a rating over 90. He won 9, 8, 6, 6 and 5 games those seasons. Of his 9 other seasons in which he had a rating below 90 there were 5 years that he won 10 games or more. So until the playoffs, he was really just along for the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 10:10 PM, minutemancl said: Top 5 for sure. We'd be taking a hall of game QB, in his prime, into 2023, where QB play across the league is underwhelming. Easily top 5. Did you think this thread was about Peyton Manning? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukjets21 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 6:10 AM, minutemancl said: Top 5 for sure. We'd be taking a hall of game QB, in his prime, into 2023, where QB play across the league is underwhelming. Easily top 5. This is laughable. You could make an argument for 6-10 but I went for 11-15. Eli is really not a great QB and his 'prime' wasn't that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 I voted for 11-15 but I could make an honest case for prime 2011 Eli to be top 10. I think his durability would boost his value but on the other hand the current league wide emphasis on QB's being a duel threat would hurt him. I just seen that man take absolute beatings on the field. Monster sacks... helmet ends up on sideways and just gets up and goes back to work. In the right system in todays NFL I think he could excel and be top 10. Mahomes Hurts Tua Burrow Dak Allen Lamar Herbert I'd start my argument somewhere around here in the Goff, Kyler, Purdy, Lawrence area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Fringe top 5, so I went 6-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 What team is he on??? An average team for argument's sake, and Eli at the peak of his powers (circa 2011) then he'd be a fringe top 5 starter. This year maybe top 3 quarterback, and in the MVP race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Shockwave said: I voted for 11-15 but I could make an honest case for prime 2011 Eli to be top 10. I think his durability would boost his value but on the other hand the current league wide emphasis on QB's being a duel threat would hurt him. I just seen that man take absolute beatings on the field. Monster sacks... helmet ends up on sideways and just gets up and goes back to work. In the right system in todays NFL I think he could excel and be top 10. Mahomes Hurts Tua Burrow Dak Allen Lamar Herbert I'd start my argument somewhere around here in the Goff, Kyler, Purdy, Lawrence area You think prime Eli Manning isnt better than current Tua or Hurts? Interesting I kinda view prime Eli as current Dak Prescott. A guy who is more than capable of winning you any game with his arm but the conditions needs to be just right around him for it to happen. Edited December 27, 2023 by AkronsWitness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 4 hours ago, AkronsWitness said: You think prime Eli Manning isnt better than current Tua or Hurts? Interesting I kinda view prime Eli as current Dak Prescott. A guy who is more than capable of winning you any game with his arm but the conditions needs to be just right around him for it to happen. It's tricky because the question is "prime" Eli which is leaving out all the mediocre seasons he had. I'd argue he had four top 5 ish statistical seasons 2010, 2011, 2014, and 2015. 2021 those stats would have put him fringe top 10. Last season arguably top 5, this season def top 5. This just seems like a really fluky season for QB play. Hurts I'd argue for based on his ground production and last year was a true MVP worthy season (not something Eli ever put up). Tua is arguable see how he finishes out the year. I didn't realize how much his production had fallen off recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 It 100% depends on what you consider prime Eli. Eli in his prime was so streaky that he was liable to lead the league in interceptions and be mediocre one year and then be near top 5 another year. Like Eli in his best year is better than Allen this year. Nobody would take Eli over Allen if given the choice if you got to have prime Eli all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 51 minutes ago, lancerman said: It 100% depends on what you consider prime Eli. Eli in his prime was so streaky that he was liable to lead the league in interceptions and be mediocre one year and then be near top 5 another year. Like Eli in his best year is better than Allen this year. Nobody would take Eli over Allen if given the choice if you got to have prime Eli all over again. So you would take 2011 Eli over current Allen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) Nah cause when you add in the 400 ground yards and 13 rushing TDS Allen is the overall better QB. This is the conundrum with these comparisons. Todays offenses are so focused on dual threat QB's. A strictly pocket passer like Eli would be a rare specimen. Edited December 28, 2023 by Shockwave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMT Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Mahomes / Allen / Burrow / Jackson are 1-2 tiers above Prime Eli for me but he is comparable to Prescott / Hurts / Tua / Herbert so 6-10 seems like the best answer I can come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Just looked back at his numbers and the dude never cracked over 94 passer rating once in his career. I voted 6-10 a week ago or so, but he'd be average at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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