vike daddy Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 O'Connell: "We have to maintain possession of the football. The turnover margin has been well-talked about all season long and I just felt like at this time, giving Jaren a full week of preparation and a clear-cut mindset on the game plan was best." vikings.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, vike daddy said: O'Connell: "We have to maintain possession of the football. The turnover margin has been well-talked about all season long and I just felt like at this time, giving Jaren a full week of preparation and a clear-cut mindset on the game plan was best." vikings.com In other words, KOC is tired of all the turnover worthy plays from Mullens and Dobbs. Would love to see Hall pull out a win against GB and get this team in the playoffs. A lot to ask from him for sure but it’s a great opportunity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: In other words, KOC is tired of all the turnover worthy plays from Mullens and Dobbs. Would love to see Hall pull out a win against GB and get this team in the playoffs. A lot to ask from him for sure but it’s a great opportunity. biggest hurdle might be the lack of receivers to throw to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, vike daddy said: biggest hurdle might be the lack of receivers to throw to. Time for Oliver to earn that money. Does GB have anyone that can cover Jefferson? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, vike daddy said: the unnecessary part is bringing up a player's religion. it's against the site rules to venture there, even jokingly. and we each agreed to abide by the site ruled when we signed up to join as members. Oh, I didn't see it much as a discussion of religion, which is what the rules prohibit. In so many cases around here alliteration seems to be appreciated so it looked to me as undertaking an effort at eager alliteration, an ambitious attempt amidst awkward aspirations, I invite introspection into intricate iterations, where initial ideals inevitably intertwine with iffy implementation, culminating in clumsy constructions, causing consternation and culminating in chuckles. Under the echoing dome of U.S. Bank, the Vikings and Packers prepare for a purple-and-gold pandemonium. Young Jaren, jittery yet poised, grips the pigskin, his eyes searching for Justin Jefferson's outstretched arms. The very explosive exchange echoes through the electric atmosphere, each tackle a thunderclap, each touchdown a tremor that thrills the throngs. This weekend, warriors wage war within the walls, where the Vikings and Packers vie for Valhalla's victory, leaving only echoes and empty seats in the wake of their winter's wrath. Lambeau loyalists lose their luster as Lombardi dreams turn into leather lemons. In this US Bank battleground, the Vikings vanquish visitors, vindicating valiance, victory theirs, and Hall, the hero, his helmet held aloft, a herald of hope for the horned faithful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 27 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: In other words, KOC is tired of all the turnover worthy plays from Mullens and Dobbs. Would love to see Hall pull out a win against GB and get this team in the playoffs. A lot to ask from him for sure but it’s a great opportunity. Yep, VR and me are pretty much lockstep with how we’ve seen things this year based on your posts. Both of us wanted Hall back starting pretty much when he cleared protocol. KOC should also get no obsoletion of the turnovers, as IMO his offensive play calling scheme has not helped either Dobbs or Mullens much. He has not set them up for even a netural scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Time for Oliver to earn that money. Does GB have anyone that can cover Jefferson? According to Packers' fans, Preston Smith. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: KOC should also get no obsoletion of the turnovers, as IMO his offensive play calling scheme has not helped either Dobbs or Mullens much. He has not set them up for even a netural scheme I disagree. He's set them up with open receivers...they just haven't been to throw it there on time, generally being late. Even on that last pick by Mullens, JJ was open, but Mullens got it there too late. The main problem has been both of their inabilities to throw it before their receiver got open in anticipation of it, which Kirk often was able to do. Edited December 28, 2023 by swede700 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, swede700 said: I disagree. He's set them up with open receivers...they just haven't been to throw it there on time, generally being late. Even on that last pick by Mullens, JJ was open, but Mullens got it there too late. The main problem has been both of their inabilities to throw it before their receiver got open in anticipation of it, which Kirk often was able to do. Calling 11 running plays and essentially no screen passes, is not setting up a QB with a bad arm for success. KOC should know that Mullens does not have the arm strength to make the passes sufficiently even if the WRs got open, on the balance of probabilities. Hence 6 (!) interceptions Edited December 28, 2023 by CriminalMind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: Calling 11 running plays and essentially no screen passes, is not setting up a QB with a bad arm for success. KOC should know that Mullens does not have the arm strength to make the passes sufficiently even if the WRs got open, on the balance of probabilities. Hence 6 (!) interceptions Have you seen the Vikings running screen passes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, swede700 said: Have you seen the Vikings running screen passes? Yes, another KOC problem. So let’s just not do it, and just ignore all the pros it does. Just let these Statue of Liberty backup QBs with bad arms & football drive, get high pressure from DL and deliver INTs to the defence. Edited December 28, 2023 by CriminalMind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 Just now, CriminalMind said: Yes, another KOC problem. So let’s just not do it, and just ignore all the pros it does Absolutely ignore it...same with the tush push, quit trying it if it shows that it doesn't work. If they're consistently getting no or negative yardage, there's no point in continuing to do so. It's better to just run the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, swede700 said: Absolutely ignore it...same with the tush push, quit trying it if it shows that it doesn't work. If they're consistently getting no or negative yardage, there's no point in continuing to do so. It's better to just run the ball. Lol … only KOC tries the tush push with the smallest guy (Powell) in the NFL pushing, Two times (!!!)… every other HC might have a TE or Ham pushing. It’s better to run the ball, but let’s only do it 11 times for the whole game. Makes no sense Edited December 28, 2023 by CriminalMind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: It’s better to run the ball, but let’s only do it 11 times for the whole game. Makes no sense That doesn't make sense either...unless you're behind by a ton. I wish they were better at screen passes to help alleviate the pressure, but it is what it is. I also wish they would do more counters running instead of just dives and sweeps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshpit23 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 3 hours ago, swede700 said: You'd think he'd learn like Zimmer did after one game where it ended up being Anthony Barr covering Cooper Kupp. I remember that game. It was brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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