TL-TwoWinsAway Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Need some help with this from the FF community. I'm not getting it. The Detroit Lions got the ball with 1:33 left, up 8 points. The Buccaneers had 1 timeout remaining. Here's the sequence that ended the game: 1st & 10 at TB 28: (1:33 - 4th) J.Goff kneels to TB 29 for -1 yards. 2nd & 11 at TB 29: (1:06 - 4th) J.Goff kneels to TB 30 for -1 yards. 3rd & 12 at TB 30: (0:34 - 4th) J.Goff kneels to TB 31 for -1 yards. Goff only killed 27 seconds between the first and second knee and 32 seconds between the second and third knee. TB could have stopped the clock after the 3rd down knee, leaving ~32 seconds on the stopped clock and forcing DET to make a 4th down decision. Am I missing something? Why wouldn't the Bucs use the timeout when they could have possibly gotten the ball back, down by only one possession? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The only guess I can make is that they conceded. But, normally teams don't use the timeouts because it wouldn't make a difference. However, since Goff wasn't using the entire playclock it definitely would have made a difference, but I doubt anyone was actually paying attention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: The only guess I can make is that they conceded. But, normally teams don't use the timeouts because it wouldn't make a difference. However, since Goff wasn't using the entire playclock it definitely would have made a difference, but I doubt anyone was actually paying attention. That is shocking, though, right? An NFL coaching staff, competing for an opportunity to go to the NFC Championship... not a single one of those individuals noticed that Goff took the second knee way too early? That's insane to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I think people are trying to make something out of nothing 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 12 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: That is shocking, though, right? An NFL coaching staff, competing for an opportunity to go to the NFC Championship... not a single one of those individuals noticed that Goff took the second knee way too early? That's insane to me. There's a reason Todd Bowles flopped in NY and the Bucs have, though they had a good season, regressed since he took over for Arians. We're not talking about some great coach here.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 46 minutes ago, Louis Friend said: I think people are trying to make something out of nothing What's the "something"? A team decided to end a playoff game with a timeout in their pocket instead of using it to stop the clock on 4th down, down by one score with 35 seconds left. Help me understand. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 40 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: There's a reason Todd Bowles flopped in NY and the Bucs have, though they had a good season, regressed since he took over for Arians. We're not talking about some great coach here.... But it's not just Bowles. It's every single coach on their coaching staff. Every member present at the game. No one thought "Hey, we can get the ball back..."? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnivolcm Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: But it's not just Bowles. It's every single coach on their coaching staff. Every member present at the game. No one thought "Hey, we can get the ball back..."? Mystery solved. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: Need some help with this from the FF community. I'm not getting it. The Detroit Lions got the ball with 1:33 left, up 8 points. The Buccaneers had 1 timeout remaining. Here's the sequence that ended the game: 1st & 10 at TB 28: (1:33 - 4th) J.Goff kneels to TB 29 for -1 yards. 2nd & 11 at TB 29: (1:06 - 4th) J.Goff kneels to TB 30 for -1 yards. 3rd & 12 at TB 30: (0:34 - 4th) J.Goff kneels to TB 31 for -1 yards. Goff only killed 27 seconds between the first and second knee and 32 seconds between the second and third knee. TB could have stopped the clock after the 3rd down knee, leaving ~32 seconds on the stopped clock and forcing DET to make a 4th down decision. Am I missing something? Why wouldn't the Bucs use the timeout when they could have possibly gotten the ball back, down by only one possession? They absolutely should have called the timeout and forced the decision. I'd be irked if my team did that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: But it's not just Bowles. It's every single coach on their coaching staff. Every member present at the game. No one thought "Hey, we can get the ball back..."? There's a reason they lost, too. Nobody is accusing Tampa Bay's coaching staff of being particularly good. They're safe by virtue of making the playoffs, but they only did so by virtue of their division being in the gutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 hours ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: What's the "something"? A team decided to end a playoff game with a timeout in their pocket instead of using it to stop the clock on 4th down, down by one score with 35 seconds left. Help me understand. Detroit was up 8 in FG range. Even if TB took the TO, Detroit kicks a FG and goes up 11. TB was never getting back in it. The game was over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 48 minutes ago, Louis Friend said: Detroit was up 8 in FG range. Even if TB took the TO, Detroit kicks a FG and goes up 11. TB was never getting back in it. The game was over. But why not play for the blocked or missed field goal then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Go to 1:23 Bowles conceded the game. It's up to you if that's a fireable decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sryan66611 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Thats Todd Bowles for you... He's very conservative but has actually been lightening up more so toward the end of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Seemed like handshake type stuff. I assume Goff would have used the time if there wasn't. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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