lavar703 Posted Monday at 04:21 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:21 AM (edited) 4 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Quite literally, this is the polar opposite of what you asserted. By every possible definition.. No it’s not. You said Caleb fooled everyone into believing he was worthy of the first pick. I said that’s an absurd thing to say which it absolutely is. Scouts can be wrong as absolutely any player can be a bust but the idea Caleb was able to fool the entire league, scouts and just about every analyst on the planet into believing he was first overall worthy is just an insanely silly argument. Edited Monday at 04:22 AM by lavar703 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted Monday at 04:24 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:24 AM I don't think Caleb is bad, I do think that the Bears iOL is a problem. I'm not sure taking Rome was a better option than "fixing that." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted Monday at 04:25 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:25 AM 2 minutes ago, lavar703 said: No it’s not. You said Caleb fooled everyone into believing he was worthy of the first pick. I said that’s an absurd thing to say which is absolutely is. Scouts can be wrong as absolutely any player can be a bust but the idea Caleb was able to fool the entire league, scouts and just about every analyst on the planet into believing he was first overall worthy is just an insanely silly argument. Then account for the numerous #1 pick busts that we've seen over the years. Again, that list is longer than the list of #1 overall hits. Amd, yes, actually, it is the opposite, as your position is there's no way they were all wrong about him and now say that saying so is silly. In fact, here's your exact quote: "So you genuinely believe all the scouts, teams and the entire league were tricked into believing Caleb Williams was a top QB prospect?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted Monday at 04:28 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:28 AM 6 minutes ago, lavar703 said: But that’s not the argument being made. The argument being made is that they actually sucked in college but somehow tricked the NFL into believing they were worth the first pick. It’s an insanely silly debate that I shouldn’t have allowed myself to be involved in. Do tell, who said such a thing? He was a great college QB. It was simply apparent he was not, in fact, a great NFL QB stuck in college based on what he actually did and who he did it against. That's a far cry from saying he sucked in college- which nobody said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted Monday at 04:30 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:30 AM Chargers were laughed at for choosing big beef jerky over the sexy Ferrari. They’re enjoying a great running game along with allowing Herbert time. Chicago should have gone gone Oline heavy. The Romeo pick looks aweful now simply because he can’t be used. Caleb isn’t Burrow and Romeo isn’t close to Chase as a prospect. I say this because the Bengals were cooked by not picking Penei. chargers are just trucking thru people. Makes you think and wonder. If the big uglies get high priority next draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted Monday at 04:51 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:51 AM 25 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I don't think Caleb is bad, I do think that the Bears iOL is a problem. I'm not sure taking Rome was a better option than "fixing that." Yeah that's fair, but he made some really horrible decisions throwing the ball. Even that one throw he made off balance throwing across the field that was an INT and got reversed by a holding call. The fact that he even threw that is absolutely insane. But you're right, their offensive line sucks. With all that said, I like his confidence and his willingness to try to make a play. He just can't throw into triple coverage like he did on that one INT. Just throw the ball away and live to fight another down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted Monday at 04:52 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:52 AM 21 minutes ago, El Ramster said: Chargers were laughed at for choosing big beef jerky over the sexy Ferrari. They’re enjoying a great running game along with allowing Herbert time. Chicago should have gone gone Oline heavy. The Romeo pick looks aweful now simply because he can’t be used. Caleb isn’t Burrow and Romeo isn’t close to Chase as a prospect. I say this because the Bengals were cooked by not picking Penei. chargers are just trucking thru people. Makes you think and wonder. If the big uglies get high priority next draft. Chill out bro. The Chargers just played the Panthers today. That doesn't say or show anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkcola Posted Monday at 05:20 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:20 AM 56 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I don't think Caleb is bad, I do think that the Bears iOL is a problem. I'm not sure taking Rome was a better option than "fixing that." I feel like I've heard about the Bears OL for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted Monday at 10:14 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:14 AM 6 hours ago, DawgX said: lol classic FF basically claiming Williams is a bust after two games. Zero patience - everybody sucks right away until they don't, then they're great. Everything is about whatever just happened. Two games, Bears ruined Caleb, Caleb paints his nails, blah blah blah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted Monday at 11:21 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:21 AM In 1998, Payton Manning threw for 3700 yards, 26 TDs and 28 Ints. Let's slow down on the Caleb Williams sucks train. Do I personally think Williams will ultimately be deemed a bust? Yes. Have I been wrong before? No. (sarcasm lol) Of course I have been. But I can't make that determination after 2 games. What I can say is these 2 first games were not very good for him but the problem, as some others have said, isn't just limited to him for Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted Monday at 11:33 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:33 AM 7 hours ago, Forge said: Pray for Caleb Felt like Houston had a free pass rusher all night. Play call, protection call from QB or OL, something wasn't right for Chicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted Monday at 11:37 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:37 AM The Bears are also doing terrible on making the game "easy" on Williams. Week 1 =17 carries, 69 yards (2 carries, 25 yards by WR's) Week 2 = 17 carries, 27 yards So Bears RB's so far this year - 32 carries, 71 yards, 2.2 YPC Everyone makes a big deal about CJ Strouds start last year, putting teams in a position to need to push to make their guy have that success, but Houston was able to at least give the threat of running the ball last year, especially once Stroud started going off. Now they weren't balanced by any means, but at least the threat was there. IMO the big issue Williams has to work through is his standing still and flat footed in the pocket. He needs to get up on the balls of his feet and be ready to move. The Bears need to force this with sprint outs, roll outs, moving the pocket, getting some PA going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted Monday at 12:07 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:07 PM Bears effed up taking Rome over either an OT or more picks to shore up their OL. Rome so far has shown a really bad lack of awareness. Not to say he’s a bust or anything, far too early for that, but they miss protection more than they would another pass catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted Monday at 12:09 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:09 PM DJ Moore was really effective on the one or two slants he had. He’s really hard to cover in short spaces. So what did they do?….send him on streaks and corners for the entire 4th quarter. Its that kind of stuff that will make it harder for Williams. You’ve asked him to drop a dime in a bucket whilst he’s getting his ish pushed in by the pass rush, and he threw a pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted Tuesday at 02:56 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:56 PM Caleb Haters unite. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C__YeTayrG8/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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