broncos67 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 If it's true that Keenum means no QB at 5, then we have to trade down. I could see drafting Nelson, but honestly I think it'd be a waste and we're now better off accumulating picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal_VT Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, broncos67 said: If it's true that Keenum means no QB at 5, then we have to trade down. I could see drafting Nelson, but honestly I think it'd be a waste and we're now better off accumulating picks. Been fantasizing about Buffalo 21/22/56 picks, and landing Will Hernandez with one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 hours ago, broncos67 said: If it's true that Keenum means no QB at 5, then we have to trade down. I could see drafting Nelson, but honestly I think it'd be a waste and we're now better off accumulating picks. I agree. If we're not taking a QB at No. 5 we need to trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bMiller031 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 The Bills traded up to 1.12 to supplement their 1.21 pick. That's a heck of a package for Indy at 1.3 or Denver at 1.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, bMiller031 said: The Bills traded up to 1.12 to supplement their 1.21 pick. That's a heck of a package for Indy at 1.3 or Denver at 1.5. I think I'd do it hands down and take Lamar Jackson worst case. Build my line, get a lb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bMiller031 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, thebestever6 said: I think I'd do it hands down and take Lamar Jackson worst case. Build my line, get a lb. I hope you don't mean take Lamar Jackson in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, bMiller031 said: I hope you don't mean take Lamar Jackson in the first round Why not ? Here's my logic in no particular order . If we traded with Buffalo for their two first which is really one because it cancels ours out. I'd like to get another second, plus a second or third. That leaves us with. 12, 22, our second (40), both of their seconds. With those picks I'd like to get a qb, Guard, Linebacker, wr or corner. So any combo of qb)Jackson, rudolph Lb)Edmunds, Smith Guard) Hernandez, price, whatever other guys. Wr)Gallup, Washington. There's so many combinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, bMiller031 said: I hope you don't mean take Lamar Jackson in the first round He has first round talent and first round production. Not a reach at all to think he may get drafted in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, champ11 said: He has first round talent and first round production. Not a reach at all to think he may get drafted in the first. Thanks Champ lol I've seen way worse first rounders. As long as he does ok in the wonderlic 25 or more. I have no problem selecting him back half of the first. I just wonder what trade package we can get to move down to 12? I doubt a trade down happens why wouldn't we want Cordy Glenn in a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, thebestever6 said: Thanks Champ lol I've seen way worse first rounders. As long as he does ok in the wonderlic 25 or more. I have no problem selecting him back half of the first. I just wonder what trade package we can get to move down to 12? I doubt a trade down happens why wouldn't we want Cordy Glenn in a trade? Lamar Jackson's floor is easily better than what we've had at QB the last 2 (probably 3, tbh) years. We put him in day one with the exact same team and the offense is much better. It's a nice QB class, so he'll probably go in the second round. I just hope he ends up in a good situation that plays to his talents. I think in the right place he could be an absolute star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, champ11 said: Lamar Jackson's floor is easily better than what we've had at QB the last 2 (probably 3, tbh) years. We put him in day one with the exact same team and the offense is much better. It's a nice QB class, so he'll probably go in the second round. I just hope he ends up in a good situation that plays to his talents. I think in the right place he could be an absolute star. I know you’re a big fan of Jackson, Deuce, and I agree that in the right circumstance he could pan out. I just see a unpompous version of RGIII. He’s slight and comes gimmick offense, same reasons I don’t like Mayfield (though Jackson doesn’t have Mayfield’s character concerns). It’s just too much of a gamble for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, AnAngryAmerican said: I know you’re a big fan of Jackson, Deuce, and I agree that in the right circumstance he could pan out. I just see a unpompous version of RGIII. He’s slight and comes gimmick offense, same reasons I don’t like Mayfield (though Jackson doesn’t have Mayfield’s character concerns). It’s just too much of a gamble for me. So are you sold on watson and patrick Mahomes just asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, AnAngryAmerican said: I know you’re a big fan of Jackson, Deuce, and I agree that in the right circumstance he could pan out. I just see a unpompous version of RGIII. He’s slight and comes gimmick offense, same reasons I don’t like Mayfield (though Jackson doesn’t have Mayfield’s character concerns). It’s just too much of a gamble for me. I actually don't really like the fit here in Denver. I don't think we've shown any personnel development skills or creativity/impressive gameplanning on the offensive side of the ball. Which is bad for so many reasons and scary moving forward. He's 6'2, 216, which is pretty average size for a QB. About the same size as Cousins actually. And his college playbook wasn't really a gimmick playbook. He has displayed himself to be a capable pocket passer with the ability to make his reads and progressions. This is a good article on Jackson from a guy that is obviously a fan: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/index.php?q=futures/2018/futures-lamar-jackson But it looks into the system that he played in. Concerns regarding Jackson's accuracy and footwork are super fair. He may not turn out to be a really good player, but I think his floor is actually really high. Which is how I felt about RG3 too, who i think would have had a good career even with the personality issues if he didn't blow out his knees. Will be really interesting to see where he ends up. But yeah I don't think it's realistically an option for Denver and that's probably best for both parties....but I'm bummed about it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bMiller031 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, thebestever6 said: With those picks I'd like to get a qb, Guard, Linebacker, wr or corner. So any combo of qb)Jackson, rudolph Lb)Edmunds, Smith Guard) Hernandez, price, whatever other guys. Wr)Gallup, Washington. There's so many combinations. What happened to picking BPA rather than picking positional needs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bMiller031 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, champ11 said: He has first round talent and first round production. Not a reach at all to think he may get drafted in the first. I don't agree. His accuracy and frame are big red flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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