barnaby8787 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Bobby816 said: It’s not the wrong approach if you’re signing young players (which he didn’t). There’s a good amount of young FA talent this offseason, so he absolutely can rebuild and fix all at once. That I agree with 100% (see my post directly above). I should've clarified rebuilding it in one year with over the hill guys. If he goes out and signs Cousins, Trumaine Johnson, Allen Robinson, etc. then hell yeah, I'll get excited. We should be good for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan15 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 51 minutes ago, barnaby8787 said: We were 5-11 this year with a depleted roster. Mac will have 100+ mil to make an impact this year. He should be able to learn from his mistakes of signing over the hill players, add quality talent in FA, find us a QB, and help Bowles get us more than 5 wins next year. If we can't win more than 5 games next year after all of that, it's seriously alarming is all. Your not accounting for a rookie QB, which I think we will have. That is the X factor. The key is increasing the talent level and that does not 100% mean a better record all the time as there are key positions that make require growing pains. Mark my words - both will be here in 2019 - thus not on hot seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnaby8787 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, JetsFan15 said: Your not accounting for a rookie QB, which I think we will have. That is the X factor. The key is increasing the talent level and that does not 100% mean a better record all the time as there are key positions that make require growing pains. Mark my words - both will be here in 2019 - thus not on hot seats. It's impossible for him not to increase talent level. If they really suck it up next year, gut says they'll be shown the door, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 If they can’t get to 8 wins with 100mill in cap space and and 4 quality picks they need to get fired. Both of them, but more so Macc. And I’m not a Bowles fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45fool Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 50 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: If they can’t get to 8 wins with 100mill in cap space and and 4 quality picks they need to get fired. Both of them, but more so Macc. And I’m not a BowlMes fan. This. These guys don't have much room for error. First year we exceeded expectations. Anything less than competing for a playoff spot is at minimum getting one of the two fired. Regardless of a rookie qb or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45fool Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Also Morton sees Gruden as a mentor according to reports. He'd definitely take the lateral move and from what's been reported so far the jets aren't going to stop him. Which is a shame. I think he's the best OC we've had in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Mehta reporting (take it as you will) that the Jets will let him leave if he wants. Even if lateral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Mehta reporting (take it as you will) that the Jets will let him leave if he wants. Even if lateral. Is that right, Morton signed with Jets for one season. If so, his contract expires at end of this month. Jets can renew his contract if he wants to stay with Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDotNova Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 We have an insane schedule next year. Something like 7 games against playoff teams. And 4 others against team that could have been a playoff team but they lost their star QB (ie Green Bay). Like this year, I don't think they will have a set number of wins needed. Especially if they have a rookie QB. I think there is a big disconnect in how fans on this board view them vs how ownership/players view them. A sizable amount of people on this board thought they were both going to get fired this year yet they got extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdelaney89 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Yea I think it will be about development next year. If we have rookie growing pains so long as the rest of the pieces look like they are playing well then I think we keep Macc and Bowles. That said I think we'd be in a really good position to make a push for the playoffs if the rookie can play competently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan15 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, rdelaney89 said: Yea I think it will be about development next year. If we have rookie growing pains so long as the rest of the pieces look like they are playing well then I think we keep Macc and Bowles. That said I think we'd be in a really good position to make a push for the playoffs if the rookie can play competently. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan15 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 hours ago, SDotNova said: We have an insane schedule next year. Something like 7 games against playoff teams. And 4 others against team that could have been a playoff team but they lost their star QB (ie Green Bay). Like this year, I don't think they will have a set number of wins needed. Especially if they have a rookie QB. I think there is a big disconnect in how fans on this board view them vs how ownership/players view them. A sizable amount of people on this board thought they were both going to get fired this year yet they got extended. Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hey fellas. From the sounds of it, Gruden will be our HC with Morton as the OC and Gannon as our QB coach. Gruden will undoubtely be the playcaller, but can you guys give me some insight on Morton? What does he excel at? What are his schemes like? Is he good at adapting? Any and all info would be appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskid007 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 4 hours ago, JetsandI said: Is that right, Morton signed with Jets for one season. If so, his contract expires at end of this month. Jets can renew his contract if he wants to stay with Jets. No, Morton is under contract. It doesn't sound like a foregone conclusion that the Jets would let him walk as Mehta reported... the rumor is that Todd may want to gauge John DeFillipo (ironically PHI blocked our request to interview him last year) since his contract will expire when the Eagles season ends. Furthermore, the Gruden situation can't be finalized until after next Saturday's Chiefs/Titans game because he's scheduled to call that game. If Todd is able to get some feelers whether DeFillipo would be interested in being our OC, then it makes sense to let Morton walk if he's offered the job. If DeFillipo looks bleak, you either block the request or allow him to move on if you're comfortable with Jeremy Bates. I have faith in Morton so I'm hoping we keep he and the offensive staff in place. If he moves on, a quarterback-centric combo of DeFillipo/Bates/Lombardi would still be excellent. Anything short of that would leave a bitter taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Hey fellas. From the sounds of it, Gruden will be our HC with Morton as the OC and Gannon as our QB coach. Gruden will undoubtely be the playcaller, but can you guys give me some insight on Morton? What does he excel at? What are his schemes like? Is he good at adapting? Any and all info would be appreciated! Leave him alone, you already have nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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