vegas492 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 17 hours ago, hitnhope said: The idea they reviewed the college QB market and chose Love is dubious. It is too hard to predict breakout college players years in advance. Teams have a hard time predicting who will be the right QB in their draft year much less years earlier. Yeah, I feel like you are wrong about this. 100% wrong. With all the camps out there and all the scouts for the teams, teams certainly do know how the crop of players looks years in advance. The only real leeway was the covid year and eligibility....and coming out early or late. They certainly know who the blue chip players are and watch them closely. If someone "pops" for a year and isn't on the radar at all, that is outlier. Because these kids are being watched years in advance. I will bet that there are a few QB's who fit under that outlier category, because maybe they played other positions and transitioned into a QB role. Tannehill kind of fits that narrative. Probably are a few of those guys out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Not having to seeTheilen do his dumb griddy in Purple anymore is a nice friday gift. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Not having to seeTheilen do his dumb griddy in Purple anymore is a nice friday gift. Maybe he wants to play with Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Maybe he wants to play with Love He's cooked .. no thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: He's cooked .. no thanks! Vet min Kick the tires Play for a contender Midwest guy Packer people Another cliche 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Vet min Kick the tires Play for a contender Midwest guy Packer people Another cliche Historically it's the Vikings picking up the Packers cast offs. This would be an interesting twist. I think he has value in a limited role for sure. He's clearly not the guy he was 4-5 years ago though. If I'm Thielen, I've taken enough shots to my head and body and make enough money to last a lifetime. The bet minimum may not excite me. Edited March 10, 2023 by Old Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Vet min Kick the tires Play for a contender Midwest guy Packer people Another cliche What no "Jordy" reference? Anyway, Theilen may be from the MidWest, but he's no "Jordy Midwest guy". Jordy aint hitting no griddy. He would often just catch a TD/ big play then go back to the sideline like no big deal. Was kind of the ultimate bad *** move. Thielen was/is kind of annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Arthur Penske said: What no "Jordy" reference? Anyway, Theilen may be from the MidWest, but he's no "Jordy Midwest guy". Jordy aint hitting no griddy. He would often just catch a TD/ big play then go back to the sideline like no big deal. Was kind of the ultimate bad *** move. Thielen was/is kind of annoying. Thielen is way more Billy Schroeder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Thielen is way more Billy Schroeder. I could see that. Perhaps some Wes Welker and Julian Edelman in his game too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, vegas492 said: Yeah, I feel like you are wrong about this. 100% wrong. With all the camps out there and all the scouts for the teams, teams certainly do know how the crop of players looks years in advance. The only real leeway was the covid year and eligibility....and coming out early or late. They certainly know who the blue chip players are and watch them closely. If someone "pops" for a year and isn't on the radar at all, that is outlier. Because these kids are being watched years in advance. I will bet that there are a few QB's who fit under that outlier category, because maybe they played other positions and transitioned into a QB role. Tannehill kind of fits that narrative. Probably are a few of those guys out there. I mean, Joe Burrow was not a superstar until his final season at LSU. At least not that I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said: I mean, Joe Burrow was not a superstar until his final season at LSU. At least not that I recall. And still I'll bet that every NFL team knew who he was, well prior to that season. I think it's fair to assume that those scouts know what's coming down the road. Sure some guys are going to pop up here and there. Just look at those QB's in the first round after Love was taken. Especially the ones that go in the 20's.... where GB was typically picking. I find it highly likely that GB knew that they weren't going to get near a QB with Love's skillset anytime in the near future, so they might as well draft him while he was sitting there. Otherwise we are talking about pretty large trade ups to find a guy. Best time to get a QB is when you do not need a QB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, vegas492 said: And still I'll bet that every NFL team knew who he was, well prior to that season. I think it's fair to assume that those scouts know what's coming down the road. Sure some guys are going to pop up here and there. Just look at those QB's in the first round after Love was taken. Especially the ones that go in the 20's.... where GB was typically picking. I find it highly likely that GB knew that they weren't going to get near a QB with Love's skillset anytime in the near future, so they might as well draft him while he was sitting there. Otherwise we are talking about pretty large trade ups to find a guy. Best time to get a QB is when you do not need a QB. Yep. Scouts know these guys when they're like 16 probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: Yep. Scouts know these guys when they're like 16 probably. The majority of them, yes. With all the higher end camps out there, they are watching guys for a long time. And maybe watching guys is a bad phrase. These are NFL scouts, so I'll bet that they are "aware" of these guys. There will always be outliers. For sure. But for the most part, these kids are known. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HighCalebR Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 49 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Yep. Scouts know these guys when they're like 16 probably. Still have to see the guys do it at that next level though. Like 1/3rd of 5 stars go on to be great at the collegiate level. I'm not saying they don't have these guys in the periphery, and Joe Burrow certainly didn't just appear overnight, but the guys still have to show you. So I think they saw what they needed to see in Love in the timeframe they needed, were comfortable, and had a chance at the pick. Even though there may be other guys that some of the scouts like more on the horizon you never know if you'll have a bit at the apple, or if the apple goes rotten. Circumstances are circumstantial. not to quote you specifically, just to continue conversation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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