thrILL! Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) Quote The latest surgery is a major one, Bakhtiari said, and he hopes to return for the start of training camp next summer. Bakhtiari had minor surgery done last week to "clean out and address what we're going to do moving forward," he said. The upcoming surgery, Bakhtiari said, is to address the lateral femoral condyle cartilage tear he sustained during the initial injury. The reason it wasn't repaired during his first ACL surgery, he said, was because there was a chance it wouldn't be problematic going forward. Quote "I could've been asymptomatic the entire time with that issue, and by addressing it we [might have] just added in a problem that didn't need to be," Bakhtiari said. "That's why it's like, let's go ahead and try and see if this is a problem. If it's not, then great, then we continue on, we dodged a bullet and life is good. "But now knowing that it is [a problem] would've been nice. Hindsight's 20/20." Quote The 32-year-old Bakhtiari is under contract with the Packers for one more season at the cost of $21.5 million. None of that is guaranteed, and the Packers could wipe that entire sum from their 2024 salary cap if they released him. He would still count more than $19 million on their cap in dead money. If he's on the roster at his current pay, he would count $40.5 million. Quote It's also possible Bakhtiari could agree to a pay cut that might include playing-time incentives that would allow him to recoup some of the money lost in the cut. There's no urgency to make a decision on Bakhtiari because the contract does not contain any offseason roster bonus. The only offseason money is a $700,000 workout bonus. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38585985/packers-bakhtiari-needs-another-knee-surgery-done-season Edited October 7, 2023 by thrILL! Post scope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, thrILL! said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38585985/packers-bakhtiari-needs-another-knee-surgery-done-season Here is s bit of info on Dr Brian Cole https://www.briancolemd.com/practice-expertise/ Could be an OATS (osteochondral autograft transfer system Quote Osteochondral autograft transfer system (OATS) is a type of cartilage transfer procedure. Cartilage transfer procedures involve moving healthy cartilage from a non-weight-bearing area of the knee to a damaged area of the cartilage in the knee. https://www.briancolemd.com/wp-content/themes/ypo-theme/pdf/osteochondral-autograft-technique-2016.pdf Could be a MACI (Matrix Associate Cartilage Implantation) Quote Cartilage is harvested from the joint and cultured in a laboratory. A second surgery is performed to implant the cartilage tissue into the joint. This procedure is indicated for medium-to-large areas of cartilage deficiency. Overview of cartilage restoration procedures and other documents https://www.briancolemd.com/cartilage-restoration-knee/#osteochondral-autograft-transplantation Rehab is likely going to be 6+ months. might be a challenge for GB to know how Bahktiari knee is doing by the time a decision might be needed on a cut/trade timeline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) here is the 35 minute interview from Bahktiari on his knee situation. pretty in depth and detailed on the issue and process that has been ongoing for the last 2.5+ years Edited October 7, 2023 by squire12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, squire12 said: here is the 35 minute interview from Bahktiari on his knee situation. pretty in depth and detailed on the issue and process that has been ongoing for the last 2.5+ years Hard not to feel bad for the guy and also the Packers organization. That contract is going to go down as the franchises worst ever. Edited October 7, 2023 by {Family Ghost} 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refugee Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 hours ago, {Family Ghost} said: Hard not to feel bad for the guy and also the Packers organization. That contract is going to go down as the franchises worst ever. Just incredibly unlucky. Happens in practice right after we sign the blockbuster deal and when we are going to need him most heading into the postseason. A credible argument could be made that his absence cost us two trips to the SB. An undisputed argument can be made that the amount of dead money tied up in his deal has really hurt the team. I wish him well and thank him for years of outstanding play, but we have to clear this up and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 hours ago, {Family Ghost} said: Hard not to feel bad for the guy and also the Packers organization. That contract is going to go down as the franchises worst ever. You can't blast management for that contract. At the time he signed it he was one of the top LTs in the league and did not have an injury history. Most OL can play well into their 30s - if they can avoid injury (I suppose you can say that about all positions). LTs like him don't grow on trees and other top tackles of his ilk are paid big bucks too. He and the Packers just got incredibly unlucky. I too feel bad for him and the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) I wonder if this upcoming surgery was one the club wanted him to opt to do a long time ago already. And that he didn't want to for his own reasons. Or it's just plain bad luck. Could see either way and why it could be a hard situation all around. Bakh seems very genuine though and he's a Packer great. Sucks he had to go through this. Ugh. Edited October 8, 2023 by incognito_man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Saved the meniscus and destroyed the cartillage. Tough roll. Jesus Christ, what the **** does 160 CC's of fluid pulled out of your knee look like? That's like 2/3 of a cup. Also, wow, surgery is gross. Just watched the ASA video on Mosiacplasty surgery. Absolutely brutal. Edited October 8, 2023 by AlexGreen#20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Saved the meniscus and destroyed the cartillage. Tough roll. Jesus Christ, what the **** does 160 CC's of fluid pulled out of your knee look like? That's like 2/3 of a cup. Also, wow, surgery is gross. Just watched the ASA video on Mosiacplasty surgery. Absolutely brutal. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 4:09 PM, {Family Ghost} said: Hard not to feel bad for the guy and also the Packers organization. That contract is going to go down as the franchises worst ever. Depends on how "worst" is defined. I've never had a problem with the logic behind signing Bak to that contract. Injuries happen, and GB was certainly burned by the timing of Bak's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: Depends on how "worst" is defined. I've never had a problem with the logic behind signing Bak to that contract. Injuries happen, and GB was certainly burned by the timing of Bak's. GB has certainly thrown money at crappier players who don't even have the excuse of injury. Not so much since TT took over for Sherman, but signing Joe Johnson was a waste of $$$ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 39 minutes ago, Mr Bad Example said: GB has certainly thrown money at crappier players who don't even have the excuse of injury. Not so much since TT took over for Sherman, but signing Joe Johnson was a waste of $$$ Joe johnson was the same player i thought of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, squire12 said: Joe johnson was the same player i thought of Martellus Bennett and Jimmy Graham were bad deals in more recent times, but their contracts were far less than Bak's. I get signing Bak, but at the end of the day they got 13 or so starts for around 100 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 The last Rodgers contract set the franchise back every bit as much as the Bak contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 The Jets got 4 plays out of Rodgers before his injury, so I guess that makes the Rodgers trade one of the worst trades in league history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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