SemperFeist Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Didn’t need him. This will go down as another bad post draft trade for Rick Spielman, which is becoming entirely too common. Hopefully this will prove to be another nail in the coffin. Without even using hindsight, the trade never made any sense. They didn’t gain anything from trading him, and they didn’t have anyone on the roster that was a known improvement. There’s no telling that Hughes would be playing this well with the Vikings, I personally don’t think Zimmer’s defense is very CB friendly. But, the talent was there, and the Vikings had very little talent in that room Edited December 15, 2021 by SemperFeist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Didn’t need him. Not with Mac Alexander and Breeland under contract. Quite the miss here but it happens all the time, what’s different about KCs scheme? Injuries derailed a lot of his development early on but he seems to have resolved that for the time being. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Not with Mac Alexander and Breeland under contract. Breeland wasn’t even under contract at the time of the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Just now, SemperFeist said: Breeland wasn’t even under contract at the time of the trade. Even worse then. Who did we draft in return for the trade? Edited December 15, 2021 by vikingsrule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Even worse then. Who did we draft in return for the trade? No one yet. We traded Hughes after the the 2021 draft. We sent him and a 7th to KC for a 6th in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Agreed on Hughes. Even with his health/injury concerns he should've been kept as competition for the bottom of the depth chart depth. Go figure, he's stayed healthy this year as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) To be fair, Mike Hughes was at the bottom of the depth chart when he was traded as he played his way down the chart due to health and poor play. While I think they should have kept him for depth purposes, he wouldn't have had the play time here that he has had there because as bad as our CBs have been, the Chiefs aren't all that much better, if at all. Edited December 17, 2021 by swede700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Not sure if it was mentioned but Darrell Bevell is Jacksonville's interim HC with Meyer out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 12 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: Not sure if it was mentioned but Darrell Bevell is Jacksonville's interim HC with Meyer out. That's at least twice now, since he was interim after Patricia got fired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 7:44 AM, SemperFeist said: Didn’t need him. This will go down as another bad post draft trade for Rick Spielman, which is becoming entirely too common. Hopefully this will prove to be another nail in the coffin. Without even using hindsight, the trade never made any sense. They didn’t gain anything from trading him, and they didn’t have anyone on the roster that was a known improvement. There’s no telling that Hughes would be playing this well with the Vikings, I personally don’t think Zimmer’s defense is very CB friendly. But, the talent was there, and the Vikings had very little talent in that room Oh give me a break. Everyone. And I mean, “everyone” was ready to move on from him. This is just hindsight 20/20 bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, wcblack34 said: Oh give me a break. Everyone. And I mean, “everyone” was ready to move on from him. This is just hindsight 20/20 bs. Wrong. Maybe nobody was upset. But plenty of people questioned the move. Especially with the move only leaving Peterson and Dantzler as the teams starting corners, Gladney’s situation far from resolved, and only rumors about the team targeting Breeland at that point. Not to mention it didn’t really clear any significant cap space. Not to mention, who’s “everybody”? The fans? Most fans are ready to get rid of any and all players after one bad game. Obviously one decision maker (Chiefs) felt Hughes had enough value to trade for. And trading him has turned out to be a mistake. Who cares if some fans were ready to move on. It’s the general manager’s job to be better than typical fan thinking. Spielman and Zimmer failed to properly evaluate Hughes. Edited December 20, 2021 by SemperFeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 12 hours ago, SemperFeist said: Wrong. Maybe nobody was upset. But plenty of people questioned the move. Especially with the move only leaving Peterson and Dantzler as the teams starting corners, Gladney’s situation far from resolved, and only rumors about the team targeting Breeland at that point. Not to mention it didn’t really clear any significant cap space. Not to mention, who’s “everybody”? The fans? Most fans are ready to get rid of any and all players after one bad game. Obviously one decision maker (Chiefs) felt Hughes had enough value to trade for. And trading him has turned out to be a mistake. Who cares if some fans were ready to move on. It’s the general manager’s job to be better than typical fan thinking. Spielman and Zimmer failed to properly evaluate Hughes. How much did injuries play a role? What about scheme? Maybe he was never going to fit in a Zimmer defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, vikingsrule said: How much did injuries play a role? What about scheme? Maybe he was never going to fit in a Zimmer defense. Injuries likely played a role, but they didn’t have anything better or more sustainable on the roster. This wasn’t a case where the Vikings had a gluttony of riches at the CB spot. And I’m not buying that he didn’t fit Zimmer’s defense. They drafted him, and Hughes played relatively well when he was on the field. Like I said, nobody was particularly upset over the move, but plenty of people questioned it and questioned the timing of the move. And those questions have proven true. It was a bad move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteelKing728 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Its too bad we couldn't have a kicker like Riley Patterson. Oh, dang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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