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Cleveland Guardians Thread: CHEAP OWNERSHIP = No Hitting


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2 hours ago, malibuspeedrace said:

Both are roadblocked though. Jose cesar and lindor don’t take off days.   
 So they would only be fighting over DH

Not taking Reyes out for that. Nolan is a year away. I wish they would have signed an OF instead of Cesar. He has been good but that would have meant JRam plays 2B, Nolan at 3B, and at least a competent bat in the OF

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43 minutes ago, buno67 said:

Not taking Reyes out for that. Nolan is a year away. I wish they would have signed an OF instead of Cesar. He has been good but that would have meant JRam plays 2B, Nolan at 3B, and at least a competent bat in the OF

Cesar has possibly been the best hitter on the team so far.

 

i would say he was a perfect moneyball acquisition for the team....he was not the reason they didn’t  swing for a high end bat though 

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10 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said:

Because money 

True, but he would be the 3rd/4th highest paid player on this years team behind Cookie/Lindor/Santana. Its not like he was demanding a 5 year 200m deal. He signed with the Astros for 2yr/32mil. Decent money, but not something the Indians couldnt afford.

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7 hours ago, candyman93 said:

Just a reminder that this franchise traded away Corey Kluber + Trevor Bauer and haven’t missed a beat.
 

I know people hater the Kluber deal, but if there’s a pitcher the Indians like, you’ve gotta trust them. Emmanuel Clase could have untapped potential.

Heres the problem, they traded away 2 top 20 pitchers in baseball and got back the only notable Franmil Reyes in return. If your going to do that you have to get back more bats in return considering the Indians have a All-Star pitching pipeline.

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3 hours ago, malibuspeedrace said:

Cesar has possibly been the best hitter on the team so far.

 

i would say he was a perfect moneyball acquisition for the team....he was not the reason they didn’t  swing for a high end bat though 

Cesar is the perfect type of Indians offseason move. Sign a slightly above average player for cheap who fits in the system well and watch him flourish.

They tried to do the same with DeSheilds but IDK if that is going to work out as well as Cesar. Desheilds is basically a slightly better hitting version of Greg Allen.

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Random thoughts:

1. Where is the leadership on this team? Why hasn't a player stepped forward, called a players only meeting and told them to get there HOOYAs?

2. Why is Ramirez in the 2 hole? Lindor and Santana are showing some signs of life. But Ramirez is not setting the table, which is his job. Why hasn't he been pushed into no higher than the 6 hole, moving Naquin or DeShields into the 2 hole? Or why don't they sit him down and give Nolan Jones a shot? Jones certainly could not do worse than what Ramirez is doing.

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8 hours ago, bruceb said:

Random thoughts:

1. Where is the leadership on this team? Why hasn't a player stepped forward, called a players only meeting and told them to get there HOOYAs?

2. Why is Ramirez in the 2 hole? Lindor and Santana are showing some signs of life. But Ramirez is not setting the table, which is his job. Why hasn't he been pushed into no higher than the 6 hole, moving Naquin or DeShields into the 2 hole? Or why don't they sit him down and give Nolan Jones a shot? Jones certainly could not do worse than what Ramirez is doing.

Ramirez has hit better than both Lindor and Santana over the course of the year. In 2020 the 2 spot is actually supposed to be your best hitter, not a table setter. Putting DeShields there would be analytically idiotic. 

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