swede700 Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 Quote With the Jared Goff extension in the books attention has turned to the salary expectations for a number of quarterbacks including Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott, Tua Tagovailoa, and Jordan Love. I wanted to dive a little bit into historical contract trends at the position to see if there was anything that we could learn from jumps in contract value. I think it is safe to say that the most important person to the QB market over the last decade has been Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers has set the market three times since 2013 and has three of the five highest growth rates during that period, including the top spot in 2022 at nearly 17% over the prior high. Rodgers has also clearly been the standard during this time frame with three of the top seven in terms of duration at the top of the market. Love can certainly move the market but I guess the question would be if the Packers want to be cautious since this is all based on a handful of games. That would be similar to Jimmy Garoppolo (7-0 regular season record prior to his extension) and really unlike anyone else, though Hurts’ contract was heavily based on what he did the year prior as well. Right now Love to me falls in the barely move the market range with a contract coming in anywhere from $55.2 to $55.5 million. Love also settled for a really bad contract last year and Green Bay may think he is willing to do the same here and would be aggregable to a deal that does not set the market and is in the $50-$51M per year range. https://overthecap.com/qb-market-growth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 Quote But how good is Jordan Love? And can we tell? In the first half of the season (2023), Love played poorly and was rewarded with average-level output. Did that happen in the second half of the season? Through the second half of the season and the playoffs, Love was the second-most efficient quarterback by EPA per play and fourth by CPOE. By the composite CPOE and EPA metric that RBSDM uses, Love finished second overall. Typically, better second-half-of-season quarterback results aren’t repeatable heading into the next season, regardless of our perception of a player’s development. That’s less true for a younger quarterback but that’s a tough thing to parse with Love, who isn’t really a younger quarterback but isn’t exactly experienced, either. If we look at quarterbacks whose PFF grade was 70 or under in the first half of the season, 70 or over in the second half of the season and improved their PFF grade by at least 15 points over the two spans, we can get an idea. Since 2011, there have been 20 quarterbacks who met the criteria. The amount of times that the second half of their season better predicted their PFF grade the following season was just four times. Interestingly, the first half of their season was even better at nine times. The other seven belong to the full-year PFF grade. Love had a phenomenal end-of-season run and it should scare the rest of the division. But how much anxiety that means exactly might have been overstated. https://www.wideleft.football/p/how-good-is-jordan-love 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Playing for the Packers will do that to ya! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Coach Matt LaFleur said Tuesday that Josh Jacobs (hamstring) isn't practicing but should return to the field before too long, Matt Schneidman of The Athletic reports. Jacobs was limited during OTAs on Tuesday, but it doesn't sound like the Packers are too concerned about his health. In the meantime, rookie third-round pick MarShawn Lloyd and returning veteran AJ Dillon will get extra backfield reps until Jacobs is ready to go. Jacobs at least worked on the side Tuesday, per Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com, so he's already getting acclimated to his new offense. https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/packers-josh-jacobs-dealing-with-hamstring-injury/ sounds like he's getting acclimated to a stationary bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mdpackfan22 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 On 5/21/2024 at 7:17 PM, vike daddy said: Coach Matt LaFleur said Tuesday that Josh Jacobs (hamstring) isn't practicing but should return to the field before too long, Matt Schneidman of The Athletic reports. Jacobs was limited during OTAs on Tuesday, but it doesn't sound like the Packers are too concerned about his health. In the meantime, rookie third-round pick MarShawn Lloyd and returning veteran AJ Dillon will get extra backfield reps until Jacobs is ready to go. Jacobs at least worked on the side Tuesday, per Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com, so he's already getting acclimated to his new offense. https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/packers-josh-jacobs-dealing-with-hamstring-injury/ sounds like he's getting acclimated to a stationary bike. Dread it, run from it. Packers hamstring injuries arrive all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wcblack34 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 7 minutes ago, swede700 said: That sounds less than pleasant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, swede700 said: Ouch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 While Kraft could miss part of training camp, he should be back with plenty of practice time accrued before the Week 1 opener against the Philadelphia Eagles in Brazil. He’ll have almost four months of recovery time between. Kraft, a third-round pick out of South Dakota State in 2023, caught 31 passes for 355 yards and two touchdowns during the regular season as a rookie. He played 80 percent or more of the offense’s snaps during each of the last nine games, including the playoffs. https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/05/28/packers-te-tucker-kraft-injured-while-bench-pressing-muscle-just-popped-off-the-bone/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Packers edge rusher Lukas Van Ness isn’t on the field with the rest of the team for their OTA practices this week. Reporters at Wednesday’s workout passed along word about Van Ness working with the group of players rehabbing injuries and head coach Matt LaFleur provided an update on the 2023 first-round pick’s status at a press conference later in the day. “He broke his thumb a little bit. Just the tip,” LaFleur said. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/lukas-van-ness-out-of-packers-otas-after-breaking-tip-of-his-thumb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Just the tip? I've heard that one before... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ripline Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Doesn't happen very often! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) On 5/21/2024 at 11:52 AM, swede700 said: https://www.wideleft.football/p/how-good-is-jordan-love I know this is kind of nit-picking because there was definitely a period in the first part of the season where Love didn't play well. However, I always see people split it up as if he played terribly the entire first half of the season. That's not accurate. He played well vs the bears, falcons and led a great comeback vs New Orleans. To start the season and was leading the league in TDs super early after those games IIRC. He also played well vs the Rams in the "first half" of the season. So really it was more like he played poorly in the 2nd quarter of the season and played pretty impressive for a first year starter for nearly 3/4 of the season. Edited June 3 by Arthur Penske Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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