JonStark Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, NYRaider said: UFC 196/202: McGregor vs Diaz were two events that were headlined by non-title fights. He's the biggest draw in the company so I understand why he doesn't want to be in the co-main event. The card will do at least 1-1.5M buys because Conor is fighting but that will be tied to two other fighters names. What fight are they going to put ahead of him? Usman vs Covington? If the rumored July 6th card is true, there would probably be a pretty good fight as the main. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 44 minutes ago, JonStark said: If the rumored July 6th card is true, there would probably be a pretty good fight as the main. The UFC doesn't have any needle movers outside of McGregor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Conor is right here, he's still way too big of a name to settle for a co-main event. Even as a non title fight he still does at least 1.3M buys as the headliner imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 There's no way Dana wouldn't make Conor a headliner on a PPV...? I don't even know what Cowboy's talking about. That'd obviously be the ME even with a title fight on the card, which it wouldn't need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles101 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Why is connor so great he cant be a co main? I mean his whole trash talk thing is extremely old. His trash talk against khabib was just awful. I really dont see the draw there. He has one fight in like 3 years and got steam rolled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I think conor should just suck it up and fight in the Co-Main. Who tf cares if you're still getting paid. The only people that could draw in enough money in my opinion to be on the same main event as Conor-Cowboy is Jon Jones or Khabib, or DC (DC is dependent on who he fights.) I think it should only be a co-main though if the other main event is Lesnar-Cormier. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeDenverGreatAgain Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 19 hours ago, Buckrock101 said: One bad performance doesn't reflect his entire career. Plus, there was nothing in that fight that suggested he lacked the skill to win. It was 100% a lack of execution. Take your trolling to one of the NFL forums or something, we don't need it here. Wut You mean the literal 0 offensive output? The terrible takedown defense? The poor striking defense? The terrible footwork? the poor gas tank? In fact, please point me to a moment in that fight that would give any sane person reason to believe Woodley has anything for Usman. We haven't seen a champ dominated in that fashion since Dillashaw took 10 years off of Barao's life. Again, Woodley is a mediocre at best striker (he has poor movement, poor footwork, poor fluidity) but he does have KO power. His offensive wrestling is massively overrated. Point me to one fight where Woodley dominated with his wrestling? Maia? Condit? Maybe early in his career, but as of late he likes to spam overhands and control the octagon with his power. Woodley should thank god they didn't give Covington that fight, or else he would have to deal with the shame of not only losing his title, but losing it to Colby freakin' Convington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 hours ago, JonStark said: I'm actually kinda surprised most people agree with Conor. I feel like after getting demolished against Khabib, a co-main is the perfect spot for it. Plus I can't remember the last PPV that didn't have a title as the headliner (not counting Izzy/Silva). I'm actually surprised the UFC doesnt want him as a headliner. He sells by himself and Cerrone is a major draw too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 3 hours ago, NYRaider said: The UFC doesn't have any needle movers outside of McGregor. Not quite on his level but Bones vs Brock would move the needle I'd think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles101 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, MakeDenverGreatAgain said: Wut You mean the literal 0 offensive output? The terrible takedown defense? The poor striking defense? The terrible footwork? the poor gas tank? In fact, please point me to a moment in that fight that would give any sane person reason to believe Woodley has anything for Usman. We haven't seen a champ dominated in that fashion since Dillashaw took 10 years off of Barao's life. Again, Woodley is a mediocre at best striker (he has poor movement, poor footwork, poor fluidity) but he does have KO power. His offensive wrestling is massively overrated. Point me to one fight where Woodley dominated with his wrestling? Maia? Condit? Maybe early in his career, but as of late he likes to spam overhands and control the octagon with his power. Woodley should thank god they didn't give Covington that fight, or else he would have to deal with the shame of not only losing his title, but losing it to Colby freakin' Convington. Still waiting for your top ten welterweights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, eagles101 said: Why is connor so great he cant be a co main? I mean his whole trash talk thing is extremely old. His trash talk against khabib was just awful. I really dont see the draw there. He has one fight in like 3 years and got steam rolled. His last boxing fight was the biggest event in boxing history and his last MMA fight was the biggest event in MMA history. Those two events did nearly 7 million buys, which is what the entire UFC as a whole has done in 3 years excluding Conor's fights. When you look at Conor's career the only fights that he has struggled in were fights where the odds were extremely stacked against him. He lost to Nate Diaz at 170 on short notice with a staph infection. He lost to Floyd Mayweather at 155 in his first boxing fight against arguably the GOAT. He lost to Khabib at 155 after a 2-year layoff fighting against arguably the GOAT MMA grappler. Edited March 8, 2019 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazer026 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 How many of you guys ended up getting ESPN+? I still haven't yet, but the majority of the fight nights look like they'll be on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles101 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, NYRaider said: His last boxing fight was the biggest event in boxing history and his last MMA fight was the biggest event in MMA history. Those two events did nearly 7 million buys, which is what the entire UFC as a whole has done in 3 years excluding Conor's fights. When you look at Conor's career the only fights that he has struggled in were fights where the odds were extremely stacked against him. He lost to Nate Diaz at 170 on short notice with a staph infection. He lost to Floyd Mayweather at 155 in his first boxing fight against arguably the GOAT. He lost to Khabib at 155 after a 2-year layoff fighting against arguably the GOAT MMA grappler. Ya people move fast. All that history is great but what does he have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckrock101 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 hours ago, MakeDenverGreatAgain said: Wut You mean the literal 0 offensive output? The terrible takedown defense? The poor striking defense? The terrible footwork? the poor gas tank? In fact, please point me to a moment in that fight that would give any sane person reason to believe Woodley has anything for Usman. We haven't seen a champ dominated in that fashion since Dillashaw took 10 years off of Barao's life. Again, Woodley is a mediocre at best striker (he has poor movement, poor footwork, poor fluidity) but he does have KO power. His offensive wrestling is massively overrated. Point me to one fight where Woodley dominated with his wrestling? Maia? Condit? Maybe early in his career, but as of late he likes to spam overhands and control the octagon with his power. Woodley should thank god they didn't give Covington that fight, or else he would have to deal with the shame of not only losing his title, but losing it to Colby freakin' Convington. Usman landed 2 takedowns in 5 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, eagles101 said: Ya people move fast. All that history is great but what does he have now. What does any of the roster have now? The UFC puts 3 title fights on a card together and can't clear 1M+ buys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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