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Since firing Tony Dungy. The Bucs are  107-149, only made the playoffs 3 times, and are on a current 11 year playoff drought.

The Giants won their 2nd and 4th Superbowls 4 years after their 1st and 3rd respectively. 

Peyton Manning owned divisional foes. 71-23 combined (46-14 w Indy. 25-9 w DEN)  

Aaron Rodgers as well. 40-14 in the NFC North.  

The Carolina Panthers have never had back to back winning seasons. 

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14 hours ago, PapaShogun said:

On November 2nd, 1986 against the Redskins, Vikings quarterback Tommy Krammer went 20/35, for 490 yards, 4 touchdowns, 1 interception, and took 4 sacks. Despite the effort, the Redskins still lost 44-38.

Billy Volek had back to back games where he posted 29/43, 426 yards, 4 tds, 0 picks and 40/60, 492 yards, 4 tds and 1 pick for the Titans in 2004 and the Titans lost both games. He and Drew Bennett set NFL records in those games that I think still stand today.

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In the Super Bowl era, the franchise who has been the best at coming from behind in the fourth quarter has been the St. Louis/Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals.

Since 1966, the Cards have played a total of 814 games (800 regular season and fourteen playoff). Of those, 112 games are 4th quarter comeback victories or ties. That works out to a percentage of 13.76, far and away better than any of the 32 NFL teams.
 

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On 8/19/2018 at 8:15 PM, August4th said:

- steelers lost to Houston Texans by double digits in 2003, despite having 422 yards total offense to the texans 47

- Tee Martin has only completed passes to hall of famers during his NFL career; tim brown and jerry rice

- Jerome Bettis once had a game where he scored 3 touchdowns on 5 carries and 1 yard

- Ben Roethlisbger has more wins in the city of Cleveland than any browns QB since they returned in 99, his career started in 2004

 

Yes, the weird Bettis statline was in a 24-21 win over the Raiders in 2004. After Bettis had injury issues in 2002, and 2003, the Steelers signed Deuce Staley. Staley won the starting job, so Bettis was relegated to a backup role, especially, around the goal line. Of course, for a back like Jerome, that was a horrible fit, since his forte was wearing down defenses with numerous carries. Staley was great in his first several games as a Steeler, but was lost for the season around the midway point. Ironically, the tiny number of carries for Bettis in the first half of the season turned out to be a blessing in disguise. Bettis proceeded to rip off six 100 yard games in eight as the starter, proving he wasn't finished as a player.

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On 8/21/2018 at 10:18 AM, Shanedorf said:

Chargers did it in 2010, finishing with a 9-7 record

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2010.htm

Don't forget about the 1993 Phoenix Cardinals.  They were 7-9 but arguably the best 7-9 team in NFL history.  They had a 326-269 point differential which is more indicative of a 9-7/10-6 team.  They finished in both top 10 in offense and defense.  And they won 4 of their last 5.  They lost only 1 game by more than 7 points, and it was a 28-14 loss to the 49ers on the road (who were in the NFC Championship Game that year).  Every single one of their 9 losses came against teams that were .500 or better outside of a 2 point loss to the 5-11 Patriots

Yet they never built on their success because management had dictated that Joe bugels job depended on him having a winning season.  But this was a situation where you could make a legitimate argument that he deserved one more season.  Unfortunately the Cards fired him and went after Buddy Ryan.  We all know how that one ended lol

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18 hours ago, PapaShogun said:

HOF receiver Andre Reed never led the NFL in major statistical category at any point in his career.

And you just hit the nail on the head on why I have a problem with Andre Reed being in the HOF.  This dude was a really good YAC receiver, but was purely an accumulator of stats over a long period of time.  He had 7 seasons where he made the Pro Bowl, but only 4 of them were actually deserved (1988, 1989, 1991, and 1994).  No idea how he was a 2nd team All-Pro in 1991 with less than 1000 yards in the full 16 games.  He made a Pro Bowl in 1993 solely off name recognition, because 52 for 854 in 15 games is nowhere near Pro Bowl worthy.  He wasn't a star, he was a perfect supporting cast player and 3rd wheel.  He benefitted largely from being carried by Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas

This dude played 16 seasons and out of those 16 seasons, he had a grand total of 4 seasons over 1000 yards.  He didn't perform particularly well in the 4 super bowls outside of Super Bowl 27 where he had 8 for 152 but it was in a 52-17 loss (and you can maybe make the case for super bowl 28 with 6 catches for 75 yards but it's a stretch).  Art Monk was an accumulator too.  I don't really think Monk belongs in the HOF and he has 3 super bowl rings and 5 seasons of 1000 yards or more.  No way Andre Reed should be in, especially with no rings

I think the perfect comparison for Reed is Irving Fryar.  Another guy who was an accumulator of stats over a long period of time, but Fryar was better at his peak than Reed was at his (though to be fair, fryars peak came in his 30s and Reeds came in his mid 20s).  Still, Fryar played for 17 seasons and had 5 seasons of 1000 yards or more and made 5 Pro Bowls with 2 All-Pros (mostly due to the fact that he was stuck on such sorry New England teams throughout his career, otherwise I think his numbers would have been significantly better).  He will never even sniff the Hall of Fame because he never had any postseason success of note other than the Patriots fluke Super Bowl run in 1985.  Reed shouldn't have been in either, especially before Tim Brown.  Considering both Reed and Brown have 0 Super Bowls, Brown's case blows Reed's right out of the water and he actually had to be passed over for the HOF by this dude out of all people.  It made me sick to see Reed get in when he finally did 

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19 hours ago, Jimmy Austin said:

Since firing Tony Dungy. The Bucs are  107-149, only made the playoffs 3 times, and are on a current 11 year playoff drought.

The Giants won their 2nd and 4th Superbowls 4 years after their 1st and 3rd respectively. 

Peyton Manning owned divisional foes. 71-23 combined (46-14 w Indy. 25-9 w DEN)  

Aaron Rodgers as well. 40-14 in the NFC North.  

The Carolina Panthers have never had back to back winning seasons. 

And Brady vs AFC East 76-20

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6 hours ago, RBreezy said:

Tom Brady once threw for 505 yards in the Super Bowl. His team never punted the ball. However, they lost.

 

Honestly though he had a hell of a game. There’s a lot of crazy stats that can be pulled from that one.

and ofc the super bowl before last produced a million records as well

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In the history of the NFL, 8 QBs have thrown 7 TDs in a single game. Three in the past 5 years. Sid Luckman, 1943, Adrian Burk, 1954, George Blanda, 1961, YA Tittle, 1962, Joe Kapp, 1969, Peyton Manning, 2013, Nick Foles, 2013, Drew Bress, 2015.

The 1951 NFL title game featured a rematch of the Cleveland Browns with Otto Graham and the LA Rams with Norm Van Brocklin. The first ever nationally televised football game. It ended with a hail mary from NVB to Tom Fears.

The 1960 GB Packers was the fastest turn around in league history, from a 1958 1-10 to the 1960 championship game, won late by NVB of the Eagles.


 

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The 2011 Panthers are the only team to have three 700 yard rushers (DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, Cam Newton). In 2009, the Panthers became the only team to have two 1,100 yard rushers (Stewart and Williams).

The Panthers have a 9 playoff victories in 24 seasons (8 playoff berths) while the Falcons have managed just 10 wins in 53 seasons (14 playoff berths), Saints 8 in 52 seasons (11 playoff berths), and Bucs 6 in 43 seasons (10 playoff berths). Ironically, the Saints and the Bucs are the ones with championships while the Falcons and Panthers are the ones who've gotten to the Super Bowl multiple times...

The Panthers are the only team to win the NFC South in consecutive seasons, doing it from 2013-2015. Although they have never had winning seasons in consecutive years (going 7-8-1 in 2014).

In Super Bowl 50, the Panthers committed more penalties than they had since 2011 against the Titans, some four and a half seasons earlier.

Cam Newton set the record for most passing yards to open a season (422) and in the first two weeks of a season (854)... until Tom Brady played games later on those weeks (517 & 940 yards).

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