5x10 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 9:54 PM, Matts4313 said: Absolutely. Young Romo was a turnover machine. Its why 1. it took him 3 years to start a game and 2. Even after that was an INT machine. He was a gunslinger. And before anyone takes this as ish talk, I named my dog Romo. I love the man. But it took him 7-10 years to cut down on the turnovers and become the guy we all remember. Bs, romo threw down the field supremely better than dak id take romo first full year of 36 tds and 19 INTs over any of daks years the accuracy of the two qbs isn’t even close, in romos favor go ahead and cite daks 5-10 yard pass completion percentage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, 5x10 said: Bs, romo threw down the field supremely better than dak id take romo first full year of 36 tds and 19 INTs over any of daks years the accuracy of the two qbs isn’t even close, in romos favor go ahead and cite daks 5-10 yard pass completion percentage Romo 3rd year, 2006: 164/244 67% on 10+ yard passes. Romos 4th year, 2007: 253/386 66% on 10+ yard passes Dak as a rookie, 2014: 224/329 - 68% on 10+ yard passes. But you can believe whatever you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 51 minutes ago, plan9misfit said: The eye test is always there. And again, you still refuse to acknowledge what analysts and experts say. 1. You might need glasses. Your hatred has given you poor eye sight. Here is a typical Plan9 GDT experience: 8 great throws, ignored. 1 bad throw "OMG GOD HE SO INACCURATE". 2. I acknowledge what plenty of experts say. Did you miss this? Reread...: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 43 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: 1. You might need glasses. Your hatred has given you poor eye sight. Here is a typical Plan9 GDT experience: 8 great throws, ignored. 1 bad throw "OMG GOD HE SO INACCURATE". If you said something like “Dak Prescott doesn’t resemble an NFL quarterback”, you’d think you would just admit to being wrong and move on. Although the reverse jinx has worked pretty strongly in Dak’s favor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyMouse07 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I’m not on #TeamQuincy and I’m not on #TeamDak either. Dak is a middle of the road QB. He is what you can expect from Alex Smith. Sometimes teams can win with that and sometimes they can’t. He is still young and developing but there are a lot of throws that he misses and sticks in our minds. You don’t see the “elites” miss those throws nearly as often [Gallup deep shots particularly]. Maybe a better OC can help him unlock his potential. We may never know. My point earlier was that Matts is manipulating stats to support his cause but they don’t tell the whole story. But the other side isn’t exactly giving the straight truth either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, MightyMouse07 said: I’m not on #TeamQuincy and I’m not on #TeamDak either. Dak is a middle of the road QB. He is what you can expect from Alex Smith. Sometimes teams can win with that and sometimes they can’t. He is still young and developing but there are a lot of throws that he misses and sticks in our minds. You don’t see the “elites” miss those throws nearly as often [Gallup deep shots particularly]. Maybe a better OC can help him unlock his potential. We may never know. My point earlier was that Matts is manipulating stats to support his cause but they don’t tell the whole story. But the other side isn’t exactly giving the straight truth either. I agree with just about everything you said.... I think right now Dak is playing at an Alex Smith level - which is good; but is it good enough? Dak is not elite. Which is why he misses elite throws. But other good QBs miss those throws too. Hell, even elite guys miss them, just a lot less often. As for the manipulation - those werent my stats. It was a tweet that I copied and pasted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyMouse07 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Matts4313 said: I agree with just about everything you said.... I think right now Dak is playing at an Alex Smith level - which is good; but is it good enough? Dak is not elite. Which is why he misses elite throws. But other good QBs miss those throws too. Hell, even elite guys miss them, just a lot less often. As for the manipulation - those werent my stats. It was a tweet that I copied and pasted here. You’re using that as part of your argument so therefore the manipulation comment stands. I don’t care if they are from a tweet you’re using cherry picked stats from a tweet to make an argument supporting your own. Its important to compare stats between players at the same time today and not even players that started playing 7 or 8 years ago. The league is becoming very different from one that we saw when we first started posting on this board. It’s more important to compare stats amongst players at the same time frame otherwise guys like Stafford are HOFers with their numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Pretty crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just to be clear....NEVER been done before. I find that insane. Would have figured someone like Elway, Tarkenton, Cunningham etc to have done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I believe Daks ceiling is Alex Smith with a better arm but not as accurate. Smith has a good winning percentage and good career numbers. Is that good enough to win a Super Bowl? When Smith was with the 49ers it wasn’t and that team had a really good defense and running game similar to what Dak has now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 7 hours ago, WizardHawk said: Just to be clear....NEVER been done before. I find that insane. Would have figured someone like Elway, Tarkenton, Cunningham etc to have done it. Yeah I would have thought Cam or Vick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 4 hours ago, cromagnum said: I believe Daks ceiling is Alex Smith with a better arm but not as accurate. Smith has a good winning percentage and good career numbers. Is that good enough to win a Super Bowl? When Smith was with the 49ers it wasn’t and that team had a really good defense and running game similar to what Dak has now. Dak is Alex Smith right now, and has been since his rookie season. I would call that his floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Peter King earlier in the week said the Cowboys are probably going to pay Dak somewhere between 25-27 million dollars a season. Boy I really hope Jerry is not that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Slamman Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I can’t wait to hear from the Dak apologists today... BUT, BUT, BUT the offensive line only gave him 5 seconds to throw the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5x10 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 10:57 PM, Matts4313 said: Romo 3rd year, 2006: 164/244 67% on 10+ yard passes. Romos 4th year, 2007: 253/386 66% on 10+ yard passes Dak as a rookie, 2014: 224/329 - 68% on 10+ yard passes. But you can believe whatever you want. How about 15 yard passes? how many 10 yard passes did dak have vs romo? why are you counting romos first year starting as his 4th year? It’s almost like you haven’t even seen the two play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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