Arthur Penske Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, Golfman said: Any GM who would view a second pick in round one as a bonus should be fired on the spot. 100%. Yet, I hear/read exactly that ever day from packer writers and podcasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Norm said: I'm assuming you are against this idea lol One could surmise that, yes! I'm not as down on MVS as you are apparently. I think we have 3 - 2nd year guys who are going to get a lot better. I also think Allison and Kumerow can play so it's not a position of need. I've not looked at the WR position very much and would be fine with a slot guy (a gadget buy so to speak) in round 4. I'd be OK with a TE at 30 if Hock or Fant managed to fall that far. Otherwise, Sternberger in 2 or 3 for me and I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, wgbeethree said: I mean I absolutely LOVE tight ends. In the last decade I've been on here I'm guessing I've made arguments for like a dozen of them to be worth our/a first pick. I'm pretty sure I've made the argument for a three tight end base package. I've bought the hype or lead the train on SO many tight ends. I really really just don't see it at all with Hock which is so odd because he's arguably the most hyped of any in the last decade and I have absolutely zero idea why after watching a few games. Clearly watching four games worth of YouTube clips isn't a full scout by any means, my judgement is far from perfect, and maybe those are his least impressive games, but I'd expect to see something or anything to make me go "Oh, that's why." and I certainly didn't. His biggest strength as a prospect (IMHO) is that he appears to have shown a level of ability to do everything TEs in the NFL do in a pro-style offense at Iowa. So there's little projection with him. He is an above-average athlete and I think he has above-average ball-skills. I suspect there will be players available at 30 that I'd like more than him, but I wouldn't necessarily HATE the pick at 30 if the cupboards are pretty bare at that point (unlikely, however). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Arthur Penske said: 100%. Yet, I hear/read exactly that ever day from packer writers and podcasts. I know, idiots! Maybe we should get the best kicker in the draft at 30! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Travis Kelce is still the best TE prospect I've seen. I absolutely loved him that year. Nobody in this class is as good of a prospect as Kelce. And I don't think it's even close TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Seahawks now have two first rounders fyi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Golfman said: I know, idiots! Maybe we should get the best kicker in the draft at 30! If that's what you think people mean when they say "bonus" that's pretty dumb. Would the traditional Packers with only 1 first round pick take a WR/TE? Probably not. If they grab a stud defensive player or OL at 12 or move down to the mid 20s and now have 2 firsts and 2 seconds, would they now grab a WR at 30? Sure. That's what bonus means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgbeethree Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Arthur Penske said: Seahawks now have two first rounders fyi Wow. After having Hunt and Hill on the team they go and pick up Clark. They REALLY don't give an eff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Seahawks now have two first rounders fyi He's a 4-3 DE and KC is going all in for 2019 run. Seems like a steep price to pay for a guy you are going to either give 20 million a year to or have him on a franchise tag this year and might wind up letting him go next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer_ESP Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Seahawks now have two first rounders fyi Maybe I'm way off on Clark's value but isn't that highway robbery by the Seahawks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcon14 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 The Chiefs could have just had Dee Ford for money and instead are giving up draft picks and then also money for Frank Clark. Horrendous sequence of events for KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: If that's what you think people mean when they say "bonus" that's pretty dumb. Would the traditional Packers with only 1 first round pick take a WR/TE? Probably not. If they grab a stud defensive player or OL at 12 or move down to the mid 20s and now have 2 firsts and 2 seconds, would they now grab a WR at 30? Sure. That's what bonus means. CLEARLY not following along. The "BONUS PICK" was in regards to a suggestion we get a RB at 30. Also, you clearly have no sarcasm detector do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Seahawks now have two first rounders fyi Makes the KC Chiefs, who we play this year, much better in 2019, makes the Seahawks, an NFC foe with an elite QB, better in the long run. Cool. Trades suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl0nkerton Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Packer_ESP said: Maybe I'm way off on Clark's value but isn't that highway robbery by the Seahawks? 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Golfman said: CLEARLY not following along. The "BONUS PICK" was in regards to a suggestion we get a RB at 30. Also, you clearly have no sarcasm detector do you? I just don't think referring to 30 as a bonus pick is dumb at all. I've called it that all off-season. You can take a risk there you normally couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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