ShupacTakur Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Not sure Tennessee can really be considered a "dark horse" after being a final 8 team last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I mean....I guess. To me it's what makes them non contenders. The Ravens are a dark horse because they're playing really well, flying under the radar, and we all know what happens when Joe Flacco makes the playoffs. It depends on how you define it. To me a darkhorse is a team that has some serious deficiencies that would limit them as a true contender, but still have the talent to compete with the best. I think the Bengals and Ravens both qualify. Bengals have traditionally been limited by their QB and head coach, but have some serious offensive talent this year. The Ravens appear to have the defense, and their '18 offense is much better than the '17 version. But they have some deficiencies IMO in in that offense can't compete with the league's best, and they've shown at least once this year that their defense has trouble hanging with a good offense. In either case, neither team is a primary contender. So that's why i'd call them both dark horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, ET80 said: - Cincy is putting people on skates, and that's without their best offensive player in Joe Mixon. lolwut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: lolwut? Right?! Their best offensive player is clearly CJ Uzomah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, Jimmy Austin said: Bears, Titans, and Bengals. This and the Ravens. Flacco looks different with Lamar sitting in the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp6488 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I mean....I guess. To me it's what makes them non contenders. The Ravens are a dark horse because they're playing really well, flying under the radar, and we all know what happens when Joe Flacco makes the playoffs. Flying under the radar despite being #2 in point differential right now, only behind the Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, sp6488 said: Flying under the radar despite being #2 in point differential right now, only behind the Rams. Bills/Peterman helps that tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, ShupacTakur said: Not sure Tennessee can really be considered a "dark horse" after being a final 8 team last year. Considering most people were predicting Houston, Indy, and Jacksonville to blow us out of the division, and most people don't even know we exist, I think we fit the bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Prince Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 New England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp6488 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, .Buzz said: Bills/Peterman helps that tbf. The Chargers, Vikings and Packers were all free to expand their PD against the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: lolwut? Standing by it. AJ Green is dominant, Tyler Boyd is developing, but Mixon has three down talent akin to guys like Gurley or Bell. Fight me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, ET80 said: Standing by it. AJ Green is dominant, Tyler Boyd is developing, but Mixon has three down talent akin to guys like Gurley or Bell. Fight me. AJ is still the best player on the offense. It stalls without him. Mixon has been great, and he makes the offense better. But without him they can still score in bunches. Without AJ (like at the end of the Carolina game), they have serious issues moving the ball. EDIT: of course at the end of the carolina game they were missing both Mixon and Green, but whatever. I stand by it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, ET80 said: Standing by it. AJ Green is dominant, Tyler Boyd is developing, but Mixon has three down talent akin to guys like Gurley or Bell. Fight me. this is like saying Whitney Mercilus is the best player on the Texans D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, sp6488 said: The Chargers, Vikings and Packers were all free to expand their PD against the Bills. Peterman effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp6488 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, .Buzz said: Peterman effect. Ok... If you removed the entire first half of the Bills game in which the Ravens outscored the Bills 26-0, their PD would be +32, tied with Jacksonville for #4 in the league. If you remove the entire 44 points they beat the Bills by in that game, they would be +14 still good for #8 in the league, just ahead of Cinci. It's not particularly valid to do either of those things from an analysis perspective, but it illustrates the flaw in just bleating "but the bills." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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