beekay414 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Pirates beat writer Not sure how I feel about him. He should be a fallback, fallback option. He's really not any better than Cory Spangenberg at this point. I'm sure we'd love his versatility on defense (2B/3B/OF) but his bat is pretty meh outside of one season. God, Hiura cannot come up soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thelonebillsfan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Yep, 2021 might be when the league collapses on itself. Might be good to get some of these cheap owners out though. No reason someone who owns a professional sports franchise should be penny pinching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Thelonebillsfan said: Yep, 2021 might be when the league collapses on itself. Might be good to get some of these cheap owners out though. No reason someone who owns a professional sports franchise should be penny pinching. I fully expect a strike and I 100% support it even though it might be in the Brewers window to win it all. The entire salary scale needs to be changed in baseball. Not sure how they can be locked into super owner friendly deals for 6 (more like 7) years and then have trouble getting even 75% max value for their worth once they are finally able to get paid. Maybe if these guys got accurately paid for their damn near first decade in the league, they wouldn't try to get paid into their 40s. Like we've said in this thread, I absolutely understand being hesitant to give out long, long term deals to guys entering FA in their early 30s but Machado and Harper are friggin' 26 years old. Even if you give them long term deals, odds are they outperform them greatly before they become "hindrances" and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 If we don’t get either of these guys the meltdown is going to be legendary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 11 hours ago, beekay414 said: I fully expect a strike and I 100% support it even though it might be in the Brewers window to win it all. The entire salary scale needs to be changed in baseball. Not sure how they can be locked into super owner friendly deals for 6 (more like 7) years and then have trouble getting even 75% max value for their worth once they are finally able to get paid. Maybe if these guys got accurately paid for their damn near first decade in the league, they wouldn't try to get paid into their 40s. Like we've said in this thread, I absolutely understand being hesitant to give out long, long term deals to guys entering FA in their early 30s but Machado and Harper are friggin' 26 years old. Even if you give them long term deals, odds are they outperform them greatly before they become "hindrances" and whatnot. This has to be at the forefront of the negotiations, IMO. Either reduce the number of years of team control; allow the players to enter arbitration from year 1; or both. Also need to create a service time calculation that is much harder to manipulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, hrubes20 said: This has to be at the forefront of the negotiations, IMO. Either reduce the number of years of team control; allow the players to enter arbitration from year 1; or both. Also need to create a service time calculation that is much harder to manipulate. I'm thinking they need to start at a salary cap/salary floor with a global percentage of revenue. Get it back to the 48-52% window that works for pro sports leagues, and put the revenue sharing onus on teams. If they don't meet the minimum window, they have to pay it as a lump sum to players starting with lowest salary to highest until they hit the threshold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Player benefits should not factor into the LT either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: I'm thinking they need to start at a salary cap/salary floor with a global percentage of revenue. Get it back to the 48-52% window that works for pro sports leagues, and put the revenue sharing onus on teams. If they don't meet the minimum window, they have to pay it as a lump sum to players starting with lowest salary to highest until they hit the threshold. This would be 1B on the agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 DJL got 2/24 from the Yanks Glad we didnt touch that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, beekay414 said: DJL got 2/24 from the Yanks Glad we didnt touch that @mission27 the Yankees are being betas and not getting Machado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: @mission27 the Yankees are being betas and not getting Machado. CHEAP ****S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, bigbadbuff23835 said: CHEAP ****S Probably deserves it's own thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 It's like they aren't even trying to hide it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: I'm thinking they need to start at a salary cap/salary floor with a global percentage of revenue. Get it back to the 48-52% window that works for pro sports leagues, and put the revenue sharing onus on teams. If they don't meet the minimum window, they have to pay it as a lump sum to players starting with lowest salary to highest until they hit the threshold. Only good can come from this. Either Dolan ponies up and pays dudes (I laughed out loud too), or he sells the team. IT'S A WIN/WIN!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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