NJerseypaint Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Except...he's had Reggie Wayne and TY Hilton at the same time and still didn't blow their stats out of the water. The only thing Luck is good for is amassing bulk stats on bulk passing attempts. That's it. In what world is an old Reggie Wayne or any rendition of TY Hilton comparable to Hopkins or JJ in their prime? I would say that would equal what Goff has with Cooks and Woods, but then again, Goff has Gurley and you can't tell me that Donald Brown is just as good. Or maybe you'd rather compare defenses? My guess is you'll jump through whatever mental hoops necessary to keep Luck out of the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, NJerseypaint said: In what world is an old Reggie Wayne or any rendition of TY Hilton comparable to Hopkins or JJ in their prime? I would say that would equal what Goff has with Cooks and Woods, but then again, Goff has Gurley and you can't tell me that Donald Brown is just as good. Or maybe you'd rather compare defenses? My guess is you'll jump through whatever mental hoops necessary to keep Luck out of the top 10. However you want to justify it, the dude is just not that good. I've seen what happens first-hand when an actually good QB has no run game or WR core or defense - he still wins 9 games (Russell Wilson, 2017). Like I said, if you need bulk passing attempts and yards, Luck is your guy. That's about all he's good for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: However you want to justify it, the dude is just not that good. I've seen what happens first-hand when an actually good QB has no run game or WR core or defense - he still wins 9 games (Russell Wilson, 2017). Like I said, if you need bulk passing attempts and yards, Luck is your guy. That's about all he's good for. And I had Wilson ahead of Luck - but you can't tell me guys like Goff, Watson, and Matt Ryan can do the same when they've had more to work with than Luck has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 8 hours ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: No, Luck just isn't that good. It's that simple. I was down on him going into this year, but I actually think he's looked pretty good returning from a pretty brutal and long recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Based on QB situation, the Giants by 50 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 49ers should no longer be an option IMO. It’s clearly the Raiders and Giants/Cardinals being tied for 2nd (49ers vs Cardinals was just a weird game where 49ers dominated but lost). Bills are a weird wildcard that may be the worst team when it’s all said and done but right now I’d put them 4th worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Its Oakland. Only team in the NFL whose head coach is intentionally trying to lose every sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asciimo Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 worst 4th qtr team, 49ers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Niners are still in this!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.E Pennypacker Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I would need to see a Giants v Raiders matchup to determine the worst team.. Right now I'll go with a 2-way tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonishung13 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Probably the Raiders. Alot of these othee teams are a play here or there from turning losses to wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 48 minutes ago, Forge said: Niners are still in this!!! Nah Rodgers has 8 TDs in a 60-6 rout against Oakland imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 You all will see just how bad it is soon enough. Our next 2 games are the Colts and 49ers(both teams thatve been brought up in this thread) and we will lose soundly to both. We could easily go 1-15(maybe even 0-16 but the refs won us a game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, riceman80 said: You all will see just how bad it is soon enough. Our next 2 games are the Colts and 49ers(both teams thatve been brought up in this thread) and we will lose soundly to both. We could easily go 1-15(maybe even 0-16 but the refs won us a game). I think the Colts at home is our only chance for another win this year. Ironically it is our next game after the bye week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, BayRaider said: I think the Colts at home is our only chance for another win this year. Ironically it is our next game after the bye week. In 2 weeks i predict everyone will be talking about how Luck is back after he torches our Conley and Melvin-less secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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