AkronsWitness Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MWil23 said: 🤣 Hey, Cleveland is at the point where they are out of options. You cant complain about having no new business for the city to benefit from and then do nothing to make it easier/more desirable for new business to want to come there. Cleveland is like building a new NFL roster. Strip it down, take your bumps and bruises by allowing generous tax breaks to new business and then once everything is in place reap the rewards in the future. Maybe Clevelands Mayor can call Columbus' Mayor and ask how to do this. Edited May 3, 2022 by AkronsWitness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 It's simple: Hold politicians accountable and vote them out. Quit voting for the same dude/dudettes you guys have since the 1980s who have made the same empty promises. Regardless of partisanship, vote for people who invest in infrastructure and education. The more desirable those residences, businesses, and schools are, the more young people will want to move in and invest in the city with their jobs, lives, and consumer spending. Brown Street in Dayton has found a way to get this done. Cincinnati kind of has through Newport/Kentucky and other areas. Columbus has with the Arena District and North Shore. It's not hard people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, AkronsWitness said: 🤣 Hey, Cleveland is at the point where they are out of options. You cant complain about having no new business for the city to benefit from and then do nothing to make it easier/more desirable for new business to want to come there. Cleveland is like building a new NFL roster. Strip it down, take your bumps and bruises by allowing generous tax breaks to new business and then once everything is in place reap the rewards in the future. You had me at "no taxes". Capitalism requires people to spend money on consumer goods and services, so for businesses to thrive, you need to incentivize it that way, especially on a micro smaller level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, MWil23 said: You had me at "no taxes". Capitalism requires people to spend money on consumer goods and services, so for businesses to thrive, you need to incentivize it that way, especially on a micro smaller level. Yeah and isnt that what makes places like California and Texas so popular for all of these companies want to do business in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, AkronsWitness said: Yeah and isnt that what makes places like California and Texas so popular for all of these companies want to do business in? Texas and Florida, yes. California...kind of. They have a much higher tax rate, but here's what they DO have: *Thriving schools *Brilliant infrastructure *Access to the world consumer markets *International access by land, air, and sea *A good import/export market *Skilled and highly educated workers, giving them the top picks in their respective fields *Great and varied weather (stark difference from the north to the south and everywhere in between)...wine in the north with fruit and mountains, sunny beaches down south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDD Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Yeah and isnt that what makes places like California and Texas so popular for all of these companies want to do business in? Might want to go see the taxes paid in California The reason those places are so well invested is because of the amount of people who live there or willing to relocate their. @MWil23 I feel the Ron Swanson approach Edited May 3, 2022 by JDD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Texas and Florida, yes. California...kind of. They have a much higher tax rate, but here's what they DO have: *Thriving schools *Brilliant infrastructure *Access to the world consumer markets *International access by land, air, and sea *A good import/export market *Skilled and highly educated workers, giving them the top picks in their respective fields *Great and varied weather (stark difference from the north to the south and everywhere in between)...wine in the north with fruit and mountains, sunny beaches down south. Good to know, so then what makes Columbus so attractive? They have new business coming in every other day down here and are the global HQ for at least 50+ well known companies/brands. How is Columbus able to do it and Cleveland can barely hold onto American Greetings? Is it just leadership? I understand CBUS is centralized for shipping/receiving but that cant be the only reason Edited May 3, 2022 by AkronsWitness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Hold politicians accountable and vote them out. Quit voting for the same dude/dudettes you guys have since the 1980s who have made the same empty promises. I’d like to believe this actually works, but it doesn’t. Politicians (most anyways) have term limits. Real change takes time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, candyman93 said: I’d like to believe this actually works, but it doesn’t. Politicians (most anyways) have term limits. Real change takes time. Welp, start breaking ground on stuff and spending money and the next guy/girl will have no other choice but to finish it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDD Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Good to know, so then what makes Columbus so attractive? They have new business coming in every other day down here and are the global HQ for at least 50+ well known companies/brands. How is Columbus able to do it and Cleveland can barely hold onto American Greetings? Is it just leadership? I understand CBUS is centralized for shipping/receiving but that cant be the only reason Columbus has started working on this since the 80's. They grew OSU to one of the largest Universities and started brining in people and building out the city. They have had a huge boom in people staying Columbus since the 90's. They also decided to go away from the bread and butter of the rust belt by making them an auto or steel mfg city. They went banking and tech. While Honda does have factories close by, they aren't the main show in town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, JDD said: Columbus has started working on this since the 80's. They grew OSU to one of the largest Universities and started brining in people and building out the city. They have had a huge boom in people staying Columbus since the 90's. They also decided to go away from the bread and butter of the rust belt by making them an auto or steel mfg city. They went banking and tech. While Honda does have factories close by, they aren't the main show in town. 100% this Also @AkronsWitness it’s not a coincidence that Columbus is a “cleaner city.” They worked very hard on that trying to attract those from banking and tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, JDD said: Columbus has started working on this since the 80's. They grew OSU to one of the largest Universities and started brining in people and building out the city. They have had a huge boom in people staying Columbus since the 90's. They also decided to go away from the bread and butter of the rust belt by making them an auto or steel mfg city. They went banking and tech. While Honda does have factories close by, they aren't the main show in town. Good point. It just feels like Cleveland is in the middle ground of what they were and whatever they want to become with no real definitive direction. Its like they are stuck in the 90s and nobody is making a move to get them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, candyman93 said: I’d like to believe this actually works, but it doesn’t. Politicians (most anyways) have term limits. Real change takes time. If we can get term limits on Congress, sign me up. Unfortunately Congress has to vote for that. The irony...LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Good to know, so then what makes Columbus so attractive? They have new business coming in every other day down here and are the global HQ for at least 50+ well known companies/brands. How is Columbus able to do it and Cleveland can barely hold onto American Greetings? Is it just leadership? I understand CBUS is centralized for shipping/receiving but that cant be the only reason To be honest, if you look at the California example, Columbus is home to one of the top Universities in the entire Midwest for research, medical, etc. and the largest state university in the nation, unless you include Arizona State's satellite campuses. It's a hotbed for young people who are at the top(s) of their fields landing big jobs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, MWil23 said: If we can get term limits on Congress, sign me up. Unfortunately Congress has to vote for that. The irony...LOL Or… we just vote them out. But we’re not gonna do that either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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