BobbyPhil1781 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 59 minutes ago, SBLIII said: I've seen Parris Campbell mocked in the 1st round. That has disaster written all over it. That's why I listed him there. I don't really think you can qualify as a bust if not taken in the first. His hands are suspect af. He has blazing speed, yes, but that's really about it. I will concede his hands did get better as he got older though. Not enough for me to feel safe about him, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 12:24 PM, JTagg7754 said: That's why I listed him there. I don't really think you can qualify as a bust if not taken in the first. His hands are suspect af. He has blazing speed, yes, but that's really about it. I will concede his hands did get better as he got older though. Not enough for me to feel safe about him, at all. Campbell was a 3rd round pick before the combine. He should still be a 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, jebrick said: Campbell was a 3rd round pick before the combine. He should still be a 3rd round pick. I definitely agree. I mean, I can see moving him into the 2nd b/c his horrible case of the drops did improve as he got older but they were still a problem. He has a high ceiling, no doubt. Unfortunately his biggest problem is his ability to do what WRs are paid to do lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Hakeem Butler drops so many passes but tbh I like him more than Metcalf as a boom or bust talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 2:41 PM, BrownLeader said: Edge - Josh Allen Not convinced how well he'll come off the edge as a pro and he's mobile but not ideal for an off ball LB. Curious why you say this exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtahUtesFan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Drew Lock, Kyler Murray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 3:01 AM, N4L said: Curious why you say this exactly? He's improved but still lacks power as a rusher. Struggles to convert speed to power and get can get flicked away wide or tied up. In space he can run really well for a 6'5 260 guy but he doesn't always break down well and has to anticipate properly to make the tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profound23 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Haskins and Gary are the first two that come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Profound23 said: Haskins and Gary are the first two that come to mind. Add in Metcalf and we got our Top Three Busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomont Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 5:41 PM, BrownLeader said: If you were forced to pick a high rated guy that'll be a bust at every position, who would it be? *I'm lower on these guys but I'm not saying I think every one of them will be busts, just if I had to choose one. QB - Daniel Jones Slow delivery, just adequate arm strength, and he's a reckless and frequent runner. RB - Darrell Henderson Blazing speed but he had track lanes at Memphis and I'm not convinced of his lateral mobility WR - Kelvin Harmon I'm not convinced of his mobility. Everything is contested and he won't have as big a physical advantage as a pro TE - Noah Fant He's fast but I'm not sure about his ability to plant and change direction. Questioning his ability to separate. OT - Jawaan Taylor Flashes dominance but I think he's got slow feet and lets guys into his chest a lot. Edge - Josh Allen Not convinced how well he'll come off the edge as a pro and he's mobile but not ideal for an off ball LB. Edge - Jaylon Ferguson There's all that production but I just really don't like his film. Clunky athleticism, awful in space, routinely owned at the poa, shuts down his motor on plays away. And looked bad at senior week practices. DT - Dexter Lawrence Mainly just an injury thing. Can be more reliable as a pro? LB - Devin White Love the guy and the motor but he's all over the place. Overruns and false steps everything. DB - Taylor Rapp Not sure how high rated Rapp is but he might just be a limited box guy with adequate athleticism. That's an excellent list, agree with pretty much all of it except Allen. I would sub in Metcalf at WR. The Mike Mamula of WRs. PS I'm not getting Haskins. ? Great accuracy, can make all the throws, solid person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nex_Gen Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Every single highly touted H/W/S WR in this class (Metcalf, Harry, Butler, Harmon, Samuel etc..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 13/03/2019 at 3:23 PM, JTagg7754 said: QB - Kyler Murray WR - DK Metcalf, Parris Campell DE - Rashan Gary Hej JTagg, haven't seen you around in the Raiders forum for what seems like an age................. just wondering what your take is on the Ohio State guys in this years draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissooner49er Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Kliff Kingsbury. I have never seen a coach fired at the college level and immediately hired as a HC in the NFL! And yes, I know this is the Draft forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 On 3/28/2019 at 7:43 AM, Darbsk said: Hej JTagg, haven't seen you around in the Raiders forum for what seems like an age................. just wondering what your take is on the Ohio State guys in this years draft? Hey man! Yeah, I've been MIA bc I go to another forum for Raider banter lol. The MODs are lame af also!! As far as Buckeyes, Bosa is the guy I want but there's very little chance he's there. I think he's basically a mirror image of his brother and that's not a bad thing at all. Aside from him, not really a huge fan of anyone in the first. Haskins is a great prospect but he's so raw. I think Dre'mont Jones could really surprise some people. He's a heck of a player and could be a great second day find. Not a big fan of Campbell until the 2nd or 3rd and feel McLauren is a better prospect. Campbell is just fast, very, very fast. If he had more consistent hands and ran more than 2 routes, he'd be an easy first rounder. Mike Weber is ok also but I don't find him to be a feature back. I think he'll just be someone to take touches from another back to keep them fresh. That's my take. You got your eyes on anyone?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, JTagg7754 said: Hey man! Yeah, I've been MIA bc I go to another forum for Raider banter lol. The MODs are lame af also!! As far as Buckeyes, Bosa is the guy I want but there's very little chance he's there. I think he's basically a mirror image of his brother and that's not a bad thing at all. Aside from him, not really a huge fan of anyone in the first. Haskins is a great prospect but he's so raw. I think Dre'mont Jones could really surprise some people. He's a heck of a player and could be a great second day find. Not a big fan of Campbell until the 2nd or 3rd and feel McLauren is a better prospect. Campbell is just fast, very, very fast. If he had more consistent hands and ran more than 2 routes, he'd be an easy first rounder. Mike Weber is ok also but I don't find him to be a feature back. I think he'll just be someone to take touches from another back to keep them fresh. That's my take. You got your eyes on anyone?? Thanks for the info! This year I really like McLauren but haven't seen that much of him and of course Bosa, he would be perfect for us and lets just hope someone overthinks on him. Aside from the Buckeyes guys I really like Sweat and Ferrell in our system and Risner though I don't think we'll take OL high. Now we're not bringing Cook back Hockenson would be great but I feel he falls between our picks unfortunately. I really like Holyfield for us in later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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