LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, roger murdock said: I don't like Rosens game I think he’s talented, and could be successful, but... 12 minutes ago, roger murdock said: or as a fit for what KK wants to do I agree here. If you want air raid, get the “air raid” guy. 12 minutes ago, roger murdock said: Haskins is similar level prospect to Darnold IMO. Really? After a single year? Physically I like him and he played well last season, but he is about as green as any top QB prospect I can recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I think he’s talented, and could be successful, but... I agree here. If you want air raid, get the “air raid” guy. Really? After a single year? Physically I like him and he played well last season, but he is about as green as any top QB prospect I can recall. Rosen is a game manager type. His strengths are diagnosing plays, pre-snap decisions, audibles, etc.... Like I think he can be a top-5 pre snap QB. Run an effective hurry up. Etc. But I don't think hes the QB you want passing 40 times in a game. His arm is pretty meh. His real issue is that against pressure he is awful. He can't make plays when he doesn't have a clean pocket and his arm strength turns to crap when he throws off platform. He's going to need a strong OL and run game to balance out his strengths which is running an offense, making adjustments, and keeping a defense off balance. Seems like a bad fit for a spread out air raid style coach. Haskins is green for sure. But his arm strength, decision making, accuracy, etc. All top notch. He makes amazing throws with a DL crashing on his face. Thats something Rosen will *never* be capable of doing. I think Haskins is a QB who can put a team on his back and win a game passing 40-50 times when he matures a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 5 hours ago, mtmmike said: Ok guys this is at the end of a 100 plus hour week furthermore I was spot on about Williams before the combine DO YOU KNOW HOW TO SAY YOUR RIGHT GOOD JOB thank you have a good day Elite post. 5 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Are you wanting credit for identifying Williams as a top talent before the combine? He’s been a consensus top 5 pick since like October. 😂 Unclog your eyes; mtmike is clearly ESL and is celebrating the right to a good job. Stop bringing up the combine. That's old news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kiwibrown Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said: Jimmy Haslam would of moves on already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said: This seems a bit disingenuous by Allbright. He's created a different context to the situation; it's not about the GM wanting a new guy but instead about pairing a new head coach with the player he wants to lead his franchise. I don't think this would necessarily be condemning on the GM at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieCamp Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, NudeTayne said: This seems a bit disingenuous by Allbright. He's created a different context to the situation; it's not about the GM wanting a new guy but instead about pairing a new head coach with the player he wants to lead his franchise. I don't think this would necessarily be condemning on the GM at all. Depends on how much Keim liked Rosen last year. If he pounded the table for him last year, then it's a bad look for him to toss Rosen aside and go for Murray. If it was the coaching staff who pushed for Rosen, then Keim could justify the move to Murray with the owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said: Depends on how much Keim liked Rosen last year. If he pounded the table for him last year, then it's a bad look for him to toss Rosen aside and go for Murray. If it was the coaching staff who pushed for Rosen, then Keim could justify the move to Murray with the owners. It really does look like it is a Kingsbury thing, with his system supposedly being tailor-made for Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 5 hours ago, NudeTayne said: This seems a bit disingenuous by Allbright. He's created a different context to the situation; it's not about the GM wanting a new guy but instead about pairing a new head coach with the player he wants to lead his franchise. I don't think this would necessarily be condemning on the GM at all. I agree but at the same time, he brought in a HC this off-season that didn’t align with Rosen, who he hand picked. We all knew 2018 was a lost year for AZ before it started. So, the 2-year plan makes little sense. If Rosen was the guy for the GM, you get a HC that’s on board. QB is more important than the HC almost every time. If Rosen wasn’t good enough to influence the HC decision, that QB choice was a big miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 20 hours ago, NudeTayne said: Elite post. Unclog your eyes; mtmike is clearly ESL and is celebrating the right to a good job. Stop bringing up the combine. That's old news. Thank you buy the way nude how many players do you think made it into the top 15 with there combine I did not get to see the combine as I mentioned because I had one of my busiest weeks ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 hours ago, ReggieCamp said: GET THAT MAN AN EXTENSION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, mtmmike said: Thank you buy the way nude how many players do you think made it into the top 15 with there combine I did not get to see the combine as I mentioned because I had one of my busiest weeks ever So good. As far as those who became--not already were--near total locks to go top-15 due to combine testing, I would say DK Metcalf, Devin White and maybe just maybe Montez Sweat. Also, dare I say Dexter Lawrence is tempting to add to the list; he's going early. *edit: DeAndre Baker and Byron Murphy may have helped Greedy Williams become a near top-15 lock.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 This thread bothers me. It's finally not painful to be a Browns fan, and you want us to put ourselves in the shoes of the Cards? Sadist. Screw the Cards. I'm too busy roster-bating to our Cleveland Browns!😘 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaBohmbastic Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I think this is actually happening guys. Kyler is going #1 overall. Chaos ensues. /Storybook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaWg_LB. Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I do know this....if the asking price for Josh Rosen is a 3rd.......We DO need a backup QB..... I'd be down to flip them one of our 3rds for Rosen....if he matures, being traded after a single season, having to play behind another QB, may make him grow up. And if he did...we'd be good for the next 3-4 seasons AND then be able to flip him for Multiple picks (1rst and 3rd?) perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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