true2form Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 On 4/12/2019 at 4:14 PM, BayRaider said: Agreed. Even saying the coaches are 100% in on Carr is complete speculation which is what some do. I'm 100% certain, your next post will contain 100% certainty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, true2form said: I'm 100% certain, your next post will contain 100% certainty. I’m 100% sure your next post will be quoting me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, BayRaider said: I’m 100% sure your next post will be quoting me. He was right. Who on this board has said the coaches are all in on Carr with no room for argument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 47 minutes ago, NightTrainLane said: He was right. Who on this board has said the coaches are all in on Carr with no room for argument? OGX and Oak Raider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 hours ago, BayRaider said: OGX and Oak Raider. In glad you didn't include me. Even I'm nervous Gruden will trade the farm for Murray and allow our defense to compete for worst defense of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 10 hours ago, BayRaider said: OGX and Oak Raider. Then say them next time and not "people" like it could be this big movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 17 hours ago, NightTrainLane said: He was right. Who on this board has said the coaches are all in on Carr with no room for argument? I believe the coaches are all in on Carr for this season. I am also 95 percent certain that we do not take a QB within the first 4 rounds. I could see us taking a shot on a guy who we can develop into a backup but taking a QB with our first 4 picks would be foolish considering that Carr has the ability to ball out this season with the added talent we have acquired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true2form Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: I believe the coaches are all in on Carr for this season. I am also 95 percent certain that we do not take a QB within the first 4 rounds. I could see us taking a shot on a guy who we can develop into a backup but taking a QB with our first 4 picks would be foolish considering that Carr has the ability to ball out this season with the added talent we have acquired. That is what I want to happen, but I'm no where near as sure that Gruden won't screw it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Frankie2Gunz said: I believe the coaches are all in on Carr for this season. I am also 95 percent certain that we do not take a QB within the first 4 rounds. I could see us taking a shot on a guy who we can develop into a backup but taking a QB with our first 4 picks would be foolish considering that Carr has the ability to ball out this season with the added talent we have acquired. If we don't take one in the first round, I doubt we do it at all. We already have 4 QBs on the roster with minimal cap going towards them other than DC. There's really three routes we can go this draft: 1. Trade everything for Murray. 2. Draft our 3 first rounders and sit pat. 3. Trade back a bunch of times and somehow walk away with 15 rookies. I'm all for the second and third possibilities. I think trading away a bunch of draft capital for Murray would hinder us long term. We didn't trade players for picks just to grab one player. We need to fill the holes Mack and Cooper left. Can't do that with just Murray in my opinion. I think 3-4 good/great rookies would help us a lot more than what would potentially become a slight upgrade or major bust at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamar Raider Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Jerry said: If we don't take one in the first round, I doubt we do it at all. We already have 4 QBs on the roster with minimal cap going towards them other than DC. There's really three routes we can go this draft: 1. Trade everything for Murray. 2. Draft our 3 first rounders and sit pat. 3. Trade back a bunch of times and somehow walk away with 15 rookies. I'm all for the second and third possibilities. I think trading away a bunch of draft capital for Murray would hinder us long term. We didn't trade players for picks just to grab one player. We need to fill the holes Mack and Cooper left. Can't do that with just Murray in my opinion. I think 3-4 good/great rookies would help us a lot more than what would potentially become a slight upgrade or major bust at QB. Option 2 makes the most sense to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Safe to say, the Raiders will will trade around on day 1. Mayock is wants more 20-60 shots. That's where you make your team. Unless Bosa falls to 4, I'm hoping they trade back. Bosa is a major need and tops his position by a mile. Even with Q.Williams I still feel I can trade back and get good value at DT. There are several guys at DT who can play and be had later. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Safe to say, the Raiders will will trade around on day 1. Mayock is wants more 20-60 shots. That's where you make your team. Unless Bosa falls to 4, I'm hoping they trade back. Bosa is a major need and tops his position by a mile. Even with Q.Williams I still feel I can trade back and get good value at DT. There are several guys at DT who can play and be had later. Simmons for example here. But trading up to 2 would cost 27 and that’s not worth it imo. Maybe I’d do it for 35, but like I said, I doubt that gets it done. 4 and 35 for 2 2. Nick Bosa Trade 24 for a 2nd, 3rd, and 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Frankie2Gunz said: I believe the coaches are all in on Carr for this season. I am also 95 percent certain that we do not take a QB within the first 4 rounds. I could see us taking a shot on a guy who we can develop into a backup but taking a QB with our first 4 picks would be foolish considering that Carr has the ability to ball out this season with the added talent we have acquired. I pretty confident as well but I can't put a # on it. I know what has been said, what makes sense, what the signs point to, what I want and what most people think. That still doesn't mean a lot when it comes what can happen between now and the draft. And that has nothing to do with the "false" narrative of Gruden being a wildcard in the draft when seeking offensive talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RaidersAreOne Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Jerry said: That's shocking considering most, me included, think's his deep ball is trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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