hornbybrown Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 On 9/5/2017 at 10:16 AM, EaglesPeteC said: Wentz. 100% Without a starting QB it doesn't matter how many picks you have. You can't compete. Eagles have a shot to actually do well this season (and beyond) because they have Carson Wentz. Browns ceiling is 5 games. I'd do that trade over and over and over again if I am the Eagles. But Wentz ain't going to take the Eagles anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 A lot of people in here saying Wentz has played well. No he hasn't!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Slim Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 half of the reason the media is sucking up to the eagles is because wentz is a good old fashioned non offensive gun totin' fun lovin' huntin' boy from the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 3 hours ago, hornbybrown said: A lot of people in here saying Wentz has played well. No he hasn't!! Whatever makes you feel good about the 2 games the Browns about to win this year The 7 games Wentz won his rookie year would rank him tied for 3rd in wins amoung Browns QB's since 1999. Enjoy those picks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 6 hours ago, EaglesPeteC said: Whatever makes you feel good about the 2 games the Browns about to win this year The 7 games Wentz won his rookie year would rank him tied for 3rd in wins amoung Browns QB's since 1999. Enjoy those picks..... I'm a Brown's fan and I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 12 hours ago, EaglesPeteC said: Whatever makes you feel good about the 2 games the Browns about to win this year The 7 games Wentz won his rookie year would rank him tied for 3rd in wins amoung Browns QB's since 1999. Enjoy those picks..... So the fact the Browns didn't win games is your argument that Wentz played well? Bless your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Iamcanadian said: I'm a Brown's fan and I agree with you. No you're not, if you were a real Browns fan you'd know there's no apostrophe before the "s". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: So the fact the Browns didn't win games is your argument that Wentz played well? Bless your heart. I'm pretty sure since the Browns haven't had a good QB since.....well....ever, you've forgotten what one looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, EaglesPeteC said: I'm pretty sure since the Browns haven't had a good QB since.....well....ever, you've forgotten what one looks like. Oooh, sick burn. Am I not allowed to watch other teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: No you're not, if you were a real Browns fan you'd know there's no apostrophe before the "s". Thanks for pointing that out. I will be sure to correct that in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 19 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: I'm pretty sure since the Browns haven't had a good QB since.....well....ever, you've forgotten what one looks like. This is a bad opinion and you should feel bad for having it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus-Viktor Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 20 hours ago, tyler735 said: Doesn't he have to play well before you can say "continues to play well"? At this point we don't know that Wentz is even close to a franchise QB. He had a mediocre at best rookie season with an under 80 QB Rating. Funny enough even Cody Kessler in limited opportunities had 92.3 QB Rating on a much worse Browns team. Not to say he's better long term than Wentz, but it shows Wentz has a ton to prove yet to be considered a decent QB. I'll take the Browns haul as they have several players in this deal that can be quality starters. I should've said consistently plays well. I saw some games last year where he looked outstanding. Obviously they averaged out with the poor games to being average. The Steelers game he posted a 125.9 QB rate against. That's a top 10 defense last year, with the 16th ranked pass D if I remember correctly. He also had games that would be considered good (90+ QB rate - using stats and a QB rate since I didn't see all of them) against the Browns, Lions, and Cowboys twice. For a rookie, especially one from NDSU, I'd also say his games against the Bears, Falcons and Redskins were good at 86.6, 86.7 & 86.7. So that's 7 games where I'd say he did good enough to make me choose him over the Browns. The Vikings, Seahawks, Giants, Bengals and Ravens made him look terrible though. So 5 great, 5 terrible, 3 good, leaving the rest, 4, as "average". So to get more in depth here, to qualify the rankings, here's how those teams ranked in QB Rate allowed on the year: Giants #2 - he was bad and low end of average against them Vikings #4 - he was bad Bengals #5 - he was bad Seahawks #9 - he was bad Ravens #13 - he was bad Steelers #14 - he was phenomenal Cowboys #24 - he was good twice Browns #31 - he was good Lions #32 - he was good So he was bad against the good teams, and good against the bad, with the Steelers being the exception to the rule. But at least his bad games, were against good teams instead of playing down to the level of the competition as some do. I couldn't believe the difference in seeing him play against the Steelers and then later on the Vikings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phire Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I think I'll take the most important position in sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I mean I honestly see Joe Flacco in Wentz. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crickett Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Phire said: I think I'll take the most important position in sports. General Manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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