The 2010 NFL Team Draft Grades

[Radagast]

7 minutes ago, SBLIII said:

N'Keal Harry A

JoeJuan Williams B+

Chase Winovich A+

Damien Harris B+

Yodny Cajuste A

Hjalte Froholdt A

Jarrett Stidham B

Jake Bailey B-

Byron Cowart C

Ken Webster B

 

Overall A to A-

Assuming that you are a NE fan, drink a pint of humble and come back in August. Just remember that all success is fleeting and there is no record that won't be surpassed in time. Enjoy the Sunshine while it last. 

 

 

[SBLIII]

1 minute ago, Radagast said:

Assuming that you are a NE fan, drink a pint of humble and come back in August. Just remember that all success is fleeting and there is no record that won't be surpassed in time. Enjoy the Sunshine while it last. 

 

 

what nonsense are you talking about?

[HoboRocket]

Washington Redskins draft was pretty good - Dwayne Haskins, Montez Sweat, Terry McLaurin, and adding another talented RB to a crowded runningback room - this guy Bryce Love. 

[Radagast]

6 minutes ago, HoboRocket said:

Washington Redskins draft was pretty good - Dwayne Haskins, Montez Sweat, Terry McLaurin, and adding another talented RB to a crowded runningback room - this guy Bryce Love. 

With the QB moves/injuries that the Redskins have undergone, a fresh QB start might just be what they need. By the way, how is Alex Smith's recover progressing. A most gruesome injury and I for one wish him all the best.

I'm not a Redskins fan, but I do live only 10 minutes away from their Richmond, Va  Training Camp. I may finally visit this year if I can survive the heat and the crowd of Redskins fans. From what I've seen it is a very nice facility, but they do have a parking problem for the non-team vehicles. Perhaps I'll wear my GB Packer Cap. LOL

It appears that Washington has actually improved themselves in this draft. I score them with a B+ for their 2019 draft efforts. 

[Daniel]

Personally, I take into account what they started with.  A team with three firsts should add way more talent than a team with none, etc.  You grade well if you get good value and address big needs, and the better you do both, the better your draft.  Here's how I graded the other teams:

A+ would go to the Skins and Pats; Skins got a premiere pass rusher and a franchise QB, Pats just nailed value with a whole bunch of picks.  A for the Bills, getting a top five, day 2 steal, and good depth.  A- for Titans, with good value and need addessing with all picks, and Dolphins for a stud and a cheap QB.

B+ for the Cards, for good picks after first, Colts for lots of value, and Broncos for a cheap QB and other good picks.  B for Ravens and Panthers, some good, some bad.  B- for Raiders, who didn't do well for the huge capital they had, 49ers, who got Bosa, Samuel, and nothing else, and Eagles, with Dillard and not much else.

C+ for Jags (risky No. 2), Packers (reaches).  C for Vikes, Jets, Falcons, Chargers, and Cowboys for average results.   Lions, Seahawks, Chiefs, Bucs, and Saints were all below average, so C-.

Steelers traded up for a top 30 player, and I didn't like the rest of their picks, so they get a D.

Browns and Bears added next to nothing, so they get D- and the Texans and Giants actively messed up their drafts repeatedly, so they get F's.

[NudeTayne]

1 hour ago, Daniel said:

Browns and Bears added next to nothing, so they get D- and the Texans and Giants actively messed up their drafts repeatedly, so they get F's.

Browns legit had one of the best drafts in the league.  Greedy was a high first rounder until one bad game and a bunch of chatter about tackling (from a top man cover corner with size, speed & swagger).  Mack Wilson was a steal in the 5th, a bit raw or not.  Sione Takitaki is a guy whose name everyone will come to know.  Even their late grab of Drew Forbes could pay off big.  John Dorsey knocked it out of the park again, unfortunately.

Humbly,

A Bengals Fan

[JaguarCrazy2832]

2 hours ago, Daniel said:

Personally, I take into account what they started with.  A team with three firsts should add way more talent than a team with none, etc.  You grade well if you get good value and address big needs, and the better you do both, the better your draft.  Here's how I graded the other teams:

A+ would go to the Skins and Pats; Skins got a premiere pass rusher and a franchise QB, Pats just nailed value with a whole bunch of picks.  A for the Bills, getting a top five, day 2 steal, and good depth.  A- for Titans, with good value and need addessing with all picks, and Dolphins for a stud and a cheap QB.

B+ for the Cards, for good picks after first, Colts for lots of value, and Broncos for a cheap QB and other good picks.  B for Ravens and Panthers, some good, some bad.  B- for Raiders, who didn't do well for the huge capital they had, 49ers, who got Bosa, Samuel, and nothing else, and Eagles, with Dillard and not much else.

C+ for Jags (risky No. 2), Packers (reaches).  C for Vikes, Jets, Falcons, Chargers, and Cowboys for average results.   Lions, Seahawks, Chiefs, Bucs, and Saints were all below average, so C-.

Steelers traded up for a top 30 player, and I didn't like the rest of their picks, so they get a D.

Browns and Bears added next to nothing, so they get D- and the Texans and Giants actively messed up their drafts repeatedly, so they get F's.

So getting the guy that everyone was mocking to us at 7 except getting him ~30 picks later is that concerning?

If anything round 3 and a lack of a 2nd OL is more concerning

[BigMountainGoat]

15 hours ago, SBLIII said:

N'Keal Harry A

JoeJuan Williams B+

Chase Winovich A+

Damien Harris B+

Yodny Cajuste A

Hjalte Froholdt A

Jarrett Stidham B

Jake Bailey B-

Byron Cowart C

Ken Webster B

 

Overall A to A-

Sorry but that's clearly a fan view. Bailey a B minus? Trading up for a punter you didn't need? 

[KingOfNewYork]

Quinnen Williams A+

Best Player in the draft but I think we could have maneuvered the asset better by swapping with Oakland and getting an equal talent and better fit in Oliver.

Jachai Polite A+

Great value getting a top 5 EDGE in the 3rd round, huge position of need filled there at a premium price

Chuma Edina C+

Good prospect at LT or RT. Could be an A if he becomes a starting tackle going forward 

Trevon Wesco C+

Solid all around TE who will be a nice piece to utilize in the run game and short passing game. 

Blake Cashman C

I think he’ll be a really good special teams player for us but not much else. Could also be cut this offseason as well. 

Blessaun Austin F

Injury riddled Corner who was probably going undrafted had we not pulled the trigger. 

[SBLIII]

1 hour ago, BigMountainGoat said:

Sorry but that's clearly a fan view. Bailey a B minus? Trading up for a punter you didn't need? 

we don't need him according to you?

 

Don't love the pick but it makes sense. 

1) we are pretty tight against the cap and Bailey would save us money

2) Ryan Allen was below average last year

3) We could have not used all our 7th round picks anyway, that's why a trade up didn't hurt us at all

4) Bailey could very well be the kickoff specialist as well which he did at Stanford. Our kickoffs and kickoff coverage last year was terrible.

5) The last punter we drafted in the 5th round set an all-time rookie record for net punting average.

 

The upside is limited, obviously. But I trust Belichick with special teams draft picks (Mesko, Slater, Cardona, Ghost) and the hit rate in the 5th round drops off dramatically anyway. I don't love the pick but can live with it.

[Daniel]

7 hours ago, NudeTayne said:

Browns legit had one of the best drafts in the league.  Greedy was a high first rounder until one bad game and a bunch of chatter about tackling (from a top man cover corner with size, speed & swagger).  Mack Wilson was a steal in the 5th, a bit raw or not.  Sione Takitaki is a guy whose name everyone will come to know.  Even their late grab of Drew Forbes could pay off big.  John Dorsey knocked it out of the park again, unfortunately.

Humbly,

A Bengals Fan

I think Greedy has a bigger chance of busting than either Gary or even Metcalf.  He's got a high ceiling, I agree, but I think he's incredibly risky.  Takitaki was a reach IMO, the Titans were interested in him.  If half these grades ended up being accurate, I'd be shocked, but it's my take on it now.

5 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said:

So getting the guy that everyone was mocking to us at 7 except getting him ~30 picks later is that concerning?

If anything round 3 and a lack of a 2nd OL is more concerning

That one was hard, but the fact that he slipped so far and that teams were so worried about his knee that he was off their boards, then that's a serious concern.  I know the Jags have taken chances on injured players a lot before, and it usually pays off, so if he plays and it isn't a huuuge problem for him, then yes, he's a steal, and their grade is higher.  I also had Allen lower on my boards than most did, but thought he was fine as a pick.  Did not love the rest.  But a C+ is still on the better end of average.

[BigMountainGoat]

4 hours ago, SBLIII said:

we don't need him according to you?

You're correct. No. I don't believe you need to trade up for a punter. 

[onejayhawk]

The 2010 Chiefs draft was a good one, starting with Eric Berry at #5. He and 5th round pick Kendrick Lewis are still playing. 

For 2019 

Rd 1, pick 29 (29) Traded for Clark,Frank DE
Rd 2, Pick 24 (56)Hardman, Mecole WR 
Rd 2, Pick 31 (63)Thornhill, Juan S 
Rd 3, Pick 21 (84)Saunders, Khalen DT 
Rd 6, Pick 29 (201)Fenton, Rashad CB 
Rd 6, Pick 42 (214)Thompson, Darwin RB 
Rd 7, Pick 2 (216)Allegretti, Nick G/C 

I like the trade for Clark. He gives them a second beast on the DL. In the same vein I like the Saunders pick, but he has a lot to learn and Clark is ready to play. With Nnadi and Speaks we have a solid core with enough star power to excel,

I love the small trade for Mecole Hardman. There are rumors that at least one other team was targeting Hardman in that part of round #2. Given the subsequent run on WR, I believe it. Andy Isabella was the next rated pure speed receiver. I had him near the end of round #3 but he went #62. He's not going to be another Tyreek Hill, but he might be a younger Jeremy Maclin.

Thornhill was one of the sleepers in various lists. This list liked player A better. That list liked player B better. Both lists liked Thornhill about the same. This is often an indication that a player has obvious talent but is hard to categorize. This can translate into do everything OK but nothing well. Or it can translate into all around stud. We will see which but I like our chances. As a bonus, Thornhill's versatility will give us more chances to use Mathieu's proven versatility

Saunders is someone I should have ranked higher because he is a Senior Bowl stud. My slip was that he did not dominate at his lower level of competition. Looking closer, that may have been coaching. Dontari Poe is the obvious comparison, both good and bad. Poe was massively athletic and huge physically. He was a great player for about a year and a half. I would settle of an excellent spot player if he's good for five years.

The prime rounds netted us an immediate star grade starter and three rotation contributors if not more. As a group,, I give A-

Day three picks are more of a dice roll. Rahshad Fenton is an enigma. He has the tools to be much, much better. Perhaps it was poor coaching. Perhaps he will be a ST monster and dime CB. Perhaps he never suits up. Darwin Thompson is another question mark. Why did he not produce more? Still, he has promise as a situational RB and could be very god on ST. I think the sleeper of the draft may be the last player selected. I would not be at all surprised if the Chiefs started Nick Allagretti at C. Compared to others on the line, he is physically limited. There are pass defense issues and playing in space will always be a problem. That said, he is the ideal size for the position and has the requisite intelligence (42 Wonderlick) and poise. They will have to design the blocking schemes to mask his deficiencies, but that's what OL coaches do. 

Late round picks B+ Overall grade B+.

It's not the 2017 draft with Mahomes in Round #1 and Hunt in Round #3, but it will do. 

J

[JaireAlex]

Overall this was a better draft for most teams and I see more talent than usual. A lot of teams got their guys.

A's That goes to the Colts, Packers, Patriots, Bills, maybe Philadelphia. I don't see these drafts failing and they all got their guys. Colts and NE really loaded up. Bills are scary on D. And the Packers got  targeted guys at good value and plugged holes -- think what you want about Gary, it's his best fit -- two premium chess pieces for Pettine to match with  above average FAs.

B+'s Raiders (got a load of solid, high character Gruden players), Pittsburgh (just don't like the price for Bush), Titans (depends on Simmons),  Chargers (that D is set long term). 

That's 9 high grades. Good draft class imo.

I have to hold off on teams that picked QBs. It all depends on them and none are sure fire.

Bad drafts: Chicago -- 3 picks on RB w/o a 1 or 2 and even less draft capital next year. All in now. They won't keep this together by selling the future for win now. New Orleans gives up a future two and counts on keeping CGJ in line in N'awlins -- two 2's for a center. Houston-- a great draft  snatched away by the Eagles and should have moved down: Howard can't start.  I can understand N.O. buying in now but not Chicago. Even if it works this year for NO, that's gonna hurt in the next couple years. They missed on the talent in this draft and paid premium to plug a need, giving up now an extra one and a two.

[WindyCity]

I do like what the Titans did in the draft. Simmons not playing in 2019 should be offset by both the 2nd and 3rd round pick being reasonable shots are starting week 1.