ET80 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, tannenballs said: Because he's going to have an even bigger impact than Darius Leonard last year. He's going to be the best linebacker in the NFL for 10 years. *Shrug* That's nice, but Ed Oliver compares favorably to Aaron Donald. He's on a very good defense with a top 3 secondary, and was really productive against top teams in CFB, while being the only player worthy of note at UH. I'm certain that Oliver is going to win DROY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) nevermind Edited June 10, 2019 by JBURGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 How do you put Hooker on the list over Leonard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannenballs Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Blackstar12 said: How do you put Hooker on the list over Leonard? Leonard has already arrived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannenballs Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 8 hours ago, ET80 said: *Shrug* That's nice, but Ed Oliver compares favorably to Aaron Donald. He's on a very good defense with a top 3 secondary, and was really productive against top teams in CFB, while being the only player worthy of note at UH. I'm certain that Oliver is going to win DROY. Ed Oliver isn't 1/2 the pass rusher of Donald. Donald's production in a better conference was far better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 5:22 PM, tannenballs said: They've been crushing the draft the last few years. I almost didn't list Allen because of the year he had but I think he takes an even bigger step forward. The Redskins always draft like that. Every year for the past decade I look at their draft and go 'oh man they slayed it' because its a bunch of flashy picks of guys I like. Its like the Redskins draft strategy is watch Youtube highlight videos like I do and look at some mock drafts then go into the war room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, AkronsWitness said: The Redskins always draft like that. Every year for the past decade I look at their draft and go 'oh man they slayed it' because its a bunch of flashy picks of guys I like. Its like the Redskins draft strategy is watch Youtube highlight videos like I do and look at some mock drafts then go into the war room. Huh? Brandon Scherff Preston Smith Jamison Crowder Matt Ioannidis Kendall Fuller Jonathan Allen Fabian Moreau Chase Roullier Da'ron Payne Derrius Guice Tim Settle Greg Stroman Trey Quinn Those have all been good picks for us over the past few years, and the ones I bolded have been great picks for us. You'll notice that the guys in bold are generally considered to be far from flashy. Edited June 11, 2019 by HTTRG3Dynasty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsthomp2007 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I'd think a player like Phillip Lindsay should be on here. He only made the pro bowl as a rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 On 6/10/2019 at 10:47 AM, tannenballs said: Because he's going to have an even bigger impact than Darius Leonard last year. He's going to be the best linebacker in the NFL for 10 years. Are you Devin White? Seriously? I mean a guy who knows something about great off ball LBers (he did coach Bowman, Willis, Lewis) said neither of the Devins were the caliber of Roquan Smith or LVE, who were only drafted a year ago. Then you have Leonard too. I mean good on you for sticking to your gun, but I dont see how, with the caliber of picks over the past 3 years, you can justify White as #1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 On 6/10/2019 at 12:04 PM, ET80 said: *Shrug* That's nice, but Ed Oliver compares favorably to Aaron Donald. He's on a very good defense with a top 3 secondary, and was really productive against top teams in CFB, while being the only player worthy of note at UH. I'm certain that Oliver is going to win DROY. I'm assuming you mean they compare favorably from a physical standpoint - because production (college), attitude and (probably) work ethic are a completely different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, FrantikRam said: I'm assuming you mean they compare favorably from a physical standpoint - because production (college), attitude and (probably) work ethic are a completely different story. Physical standpoint - I don't think either of us can comment on attitude or work ethic. You can make assumptions, but the only ironclad difference is statistical output. Which I'll concede, Donald was more productive than I give him credit for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, ET80 said: Physical standpoint - I don't think either of us can comment on attitude or work ethic. You can make assumptions, but the only ironclad difference is statistical output. Which I'll concede, Donald was more productive than I give him credit for. There were multiple things talked about with Oliver regarding his attitude or personality issues. With Donald everything you've read has pretty much been the opposite. Obviously we don't know either guy, but then we could say that for every athlete and never comment about them in that capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyronnosaurus Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I guess you’ve never heard of Leighton Vander Esch or Jaylen Smith? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Too early to do this list and include guys drafted in 2019 because they have not even played in the league yet. If you just go on guys drafted in 2018 and 2017 might look like this. Patrick Mahomes QB Saquon Barkley RB DeShaun Watson QB Myles Garrett DE Baker Mayfield QB Jamal Adams S Quenton Nelson OG Josh Allen QB Derwin James S Alvin Kamara RB Leighton Vander Esch LB Minkah Fitzpatrick CB/S Denzel Ward CB Ryan Ramczyk OT Sam Darnold QB Mitchell Trubisky QB Jonathan Allen DL George Kittle TE TJ Watt OLB Calvin Ridley WR Mike McGlinchey OT John Johnson S Tre'Davious White CB Marshon Lattimore CB Roquan Smith LB Leonard Fournette RB Darius Leonard LB Jarrad Davis LB OJ Howard TE Marcus Davenport DE JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Daron Payne DL Buddha Baker S Christian McCaffrey RB Bradley Chubb LB Sony Michel RB Termaine Edmunds LB Josh Rosen QB Dalvin Cook RB Vita Vea DT Lamar Jackson QB Shaquill Griffin CB Marlon Humphrey CB Jessie Bates S Joe Mixon RB Desmond King S Jabrill Peppers S Dan Feeney OG James Conner RB Eddie Jackson S But even doing this list for top 50 is hard because so many have not played yet. Two years in the NFL is not a career, much less zero. Need at least 4 year sample size I would say. You include Josh Rosen and leave out Mahomes, Baker Mayfield and Watson? Are you nuts? You include 2017-2019 and this is the list? What you do not include them because they have succeeded? This is a list of players who have not played much yet or what? Does not make much sense to me honestly. It is simply way to early to tell any of this, but Devin White will not be the best prospect out of the 2017-2018 and 2019 draft classes, that is a fact. With the young QB talent in 17 and 18 one of them will be #1 overall. Way too small of sample size no question, it is shocking how some players in 2017 are simply off the map already as football players. Does not take long and they are gone for good apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Including the 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018 NFL draft classes. Here is a top 100 list I made quickly, sure I missed some players but is a better example I feel than a 1 year sample size and hard to compare players who are less experienced for sure. So going back 4 years and did not include the 2019 class. Top 100: Patrick Mahomes QB Saquon Barkley RB Joey Bosa DE DeShaun Watson QB Myles Garrett DE Jalen Ramsey CB Danielle Hunter DE Michael Thomas WR Carson Wentz QB Baker Mayfield QB Jamal Adams S Derwin James S Quenton Nelson OG Ezekiel Elliott RB Todd Gurley RB Josh Allen QB Alvin Kamara RB Amari Cooper WRMinkah Fitzpatrick CB/S DeForest Buckner DL Denzel Ward CB Sam Darnold QB Jonathan Allen DL Chris Jones DL Landon Collins S Leighton Vander Esch LB David Johnson RB Leonard Williams DE Mitchell Trubisky QB Brandon Scherff OT Marshon Lattimore CB Stephon Diggs WR TJ Watt OLB Jack Conklin OT Ryan Ramczyk OT George Kittle TE John Johnson SCalvin Ridley WR Tre'Davious White CB Leonard Floyd LB Leonard Fournette RB Roquan Smith LB Darius Leonard LB Marcus Davenport DE Daron Payne DL Melvin Gordon RB Termaine Edmunds LB Jared Goff QB Andrus Peat OL OJ Howard TEVita Vea DT Laremy Tunsil OL Bradley Chubb LB Jameis Winston QB Vic Beasley LB Dak Prescott QB Mike McGlinchey OT Josh Rosen QB Lamar Jackson QB Preston Smith LBChristian McCaffrey RB Derek Henry RB Jaylon Smith LB Trey Flowers DE Keau Neal S Marcus Peters CB Ryan Kelly C Jarrad Davis LB Buddha Baker S Cody Whitehair C Shaquill Griffin CB Ronnie Stanley OT Sony Michel RB JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Dalvin Cook RB Tre Waynes CB Byron Jones DB Deion Jones LB Marlon Humphrey CB Jessie Bates S Desmond King SBenardrick McKinney LB Joe Schobert LB Jabrill Peppers S Dan Feeney OG James Conner RB Eddie Jackson S Myles Jack LB Matt Judon LB Joe Mixon RB Malcom Brown DT Eric Kendricks LB Austin Hooper TE Frank Clark DE Jordan Howard RB Evan Engram TE Adoree' Jackson CB Garett Bolles OT Zach Cunningham LB Justin Simmons S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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