Donzo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Gotta really like how the OL is shaping up. So many young guys look to be developing, it’s gonna be tough to cut it down to 9-OL. This how I'd rank them regardless of position: 1. Bakhtiari- May be the No. 1 O-lineman in the NFL! 2. Jenkins- The sky is the limit for this rookie. He’s a physical freak. 3. Bulaga, Linsley and Turner… I have these three grouped together for now. 6. Taylor- He doesn’t have much value as a backup. His roster spot is tenuous. 7. Light- Boy, the hype from camp looked legit after the first preseason game. 8. McCray- Gotta love his value as a legitimate five spot backup. Albeit, an emergency backup at OT, but he’s proven his wears at OT. 9. Patrick- I like him better than McCray at OC, and I like him a lot. There probably isn’t room for him, though. 10. Pankey- Wow, most years he’d be getting a lot of run. In year three, he’s looking like a legitimate NFL OT with size and agility, and I don’t know how he make the roster. 11. Madison- Looks like a real good prospect after a year off. I have no idea where he’s gonna end up. Nijman is an excellent size/speed PS candidate; de Beer isn’t bad either… But, how many O-linemen can the Packers keep on team/PS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Donzo said: Gotta really like how the OL is shaping up. So many young guys look to be developing, it’s gonna be tough to cut it down to 9-OL. This how I'd rank them regardless of position: 1. Bakhtiari- May be the No. 1 O-lineman in the NFL! 2. Jenkins- The sky is the limit for this rookie. He’s a physical freak. 3. Bulaga, Linsley and Turner… I have these three grouped together for now. 6. Taylor- He doesn’t have much value as a backup. His roster spot is tenuous. 7. Light- Boy, the hype from camp looked legit after the first preseason game. 8. McCray- Gotta love his value as a legitimate five spot backup. Albeit, an emergency backup at OT, but he’s proven his wears at OT. 9. Patrick- I like him better than McCray at OC, and I like him a lot. There probably isn’t room for him, though. 10. Pankey- Wow, most years he’d be getting a lot of run. In year three, he’s looking like a legitimate NFL OT with size and agility, and I don’t know how he make the roster. 11. Madison- Looks like a real good prospect after a year off. I have no idea where he’s gonna end up. Nijman is an excellent size/speed PS candidate; de Beer isn’t bad either… But, how many O-linemen can the Packers keep on team/PS? Bakhtiari Bulaga Linsley Turner (and this is giving Turner all the BOTD in the world for scheme fit and a relatively small sample size at Guard) Taylor Jenkins Light McCray Patrick Pankey Madision de Beer Nijman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 For this season, yeah, Bulaga might be second... I'm just getting a great vibe about Jenkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 45 minutes ago, Donzo said: For this season, yeah, Bulaga might be second... I'm just getting a great vibe about Jenkins. Sacks allowed per PFF last year/Snaps played Bakhtiari: 4/1032 Bulaga: 5/782 Taylor: 8/881 Bell: 1/527 (this can't be right) Linsley: 4/1075 McCray: 5/481 Spriggs: 3/291 Patrick: 0/279 Light: 0/26 Pankey: 0/1 30 sacks on the offensive line out of 53. If Bulaga gives us 5 sacks allowed over 800 snaps again this year, there's not a Guard in the league you take over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 21 hours ago, mikemike778 said: Probably but unless he gets overtaken by some of the backups, surely you need to keep him this season. I think most people accept that there is a high probability Bulaga misses time and the consensus is when he does then Turner will shift to RT. In that scenario you want to be comfortable with the guy coming in at RG. You can't build your roster around accounting for injuries but something happening to the line (and Bulaga in particular) is sort of expected. I want to see us going back to drafting OL every year, keep players coming through the system. I think it depends on how you view about the backup IOL. If you think guys like Lucas Patrick, Cole Madison, etc. can get you through a game or two, then I think you're more comfortable moving on from Lane Taylor. And I think it depends on how you view your developmental OL, in particular guys like Madison, Njiman, etc. Those guys seem like fairly decent chances to go claimed, and I think we as fans tend to overanalyze and expect all our cuts to be claimed. But if those OL are showing anything, they'll get claimed IMO. The question you'd have to ask yourself, do you think Madison/Patrick can get you through a game? If the answer is no, you keep Taylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I think it depends on how you view about the backup IOL. If you think guys like Lucas Patrick, Cole Madison, etc. can get you through a game or two, then I think you're more comfortable moving on from Lane Taylor. And I think it depends on how you view your developmental OL, in particular guys like Madison, Njiman, etc. Those guys seem like fairly decent chances to go claimed, and I think we as fans tend to overanalyze and expect all our cuts to be claimed. But if those OL are showing anything, they'll get claimed IMO. The question you'd have to ask yourself, do you think Madison/Patrick can get you through a game? If the answer is no, you keep Taylor. Are we conceding the starting LG to Jenkins? I think Taylor has value, but our cap position going forward may dictate we save the money. Other option is Jenkins at center next year and move on from Linsley. Not advocating but a bigger cap savings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Sacks allowed per PFF last year/Snaps played If Bulaga gives us 5 sacks allowed over 800 snaps again this year, there's not a Guard in the league you take over that. Good stats, but I'd take Quenton Nelson over two Bulagas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Donzo said: Good stats, but I'd take Quenton Nelson over two Bulagas. Nelson might not even be a better Guard than Bulaga would be if you had told Bulaga about the position switch in January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Well, I'm out of time for that discussion... I'll say this, Nelson is up there with Bakh and a couple others as the No. 1 O-lineman in the NFL... Bulaga is not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 37 minutes ago, Donzo said: Nelson is up there with Bakh and a couple others as the No. 1 O-lineman in the NFL @Outpost31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, Golfman said: Are we conceding the starting LG to Jenkins? I think Taylor has value, but our cap position going forward may dictate we save the money. Other option is Jenkins at center next year and move on from Linsley. Not advocating but a bigger cap savings. No. I think it's still Lane Taylor's position to lose. I don't think we're carrying a pure OG with a nearly $5.5M cap hit on our bench. Lane Taylor will almost assuredly be our starting LG to start the year, but I think he's going to get pushed out by the end of the season. Right now, Spotrac has the Packers at ~$13.6M in cap space, and they usually roll over around ~$7M. They've got a few upcoming FAs with decision to be made on them including Bryan Bulaga, Geronimo Allison, Kyler Fackrell, and Blake Martinez. Of the four, I think only Martinez would be considered somewhat of a priority, but their focus is probably on locking up Kenny Clark long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Donzo said: Good stats, but I'd take Quenton Nelson over two Bulagas. Can I play ? I'd take Ronnie Lott over two HHCD's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Two Bulagas would be nice anyways.. He could be his own backup then get healthy to replace himself if he got hurt again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Anyone else find it odd that Spriggs hasn't signed somewhere yet? I thought I saw where Shonn Coleman (SF) is out for the year with a fractured leg and ankle injury. I thought for sure they'd look at Spriggs. Too early for him to sign? ...he waiting for an injury to a starter? It's just odd to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer_ESP Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, vegas492 said: Anyone else find it odd that Spriggs hasn't signed somewhere yet? I thought I saw where Shonn Coleman (SF) is out for the year with a fractured leg and ankle injury. I thought for sure they'd look at Spriggs. Too early for him to sign? ...he waiting for an injury to a starter? It's just odd to me. As far as I know he's on IR, there was no injury settlement. Hecan't sign with anyone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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