Thomas5737 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: Unfortunaetly for cody and us Hue plays long ball and that is explicitly Codys weakness. I would prefer we adapted our offense to incorporate not only short throws but also ones that work people open. I would prefer this to endless seam routes. But the worst downfield passer in 2015 and 2016 passed up Kessler prior to the preseason and the worst downfield passer in 2017 is starting Sunday. That isn't just results, it's also PFF opinion so that is at least 2 indications that it may be true while there isn't much saying otherwise. But you are right, Kessler doesn't fit Hue's scheme and that is the biggest reason he isn't really part of the team. I'd sorta like to cut/trade Kessler just so I know we don't have a better option than Kizer/Hogan and I wouldn't be so frustrated watching them play poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 upon reflection of kessler last year i think he actually may have hijacked Hues offense. He couldn't hit the deep passes or attempt them often enough as hue would like, so he improvised, and read the game and got things done. i think Kessler could still be top 12 NFL material in the right situation. I do not think man yin the NFL will every believe in him though. otherwise he would aleady be off the roster. if we could get a second for him we would have by now. either way kessler IMO has the heart of lion, and is game day baller. He just has a 2 dollar arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Our young DL is going to be really nice. Garrett, Ogunjobi, Brantley is a heluva nucleus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: Our young DL is going to be really nice. Garrett, Ogunjobi, Brantley is a heluva nucleus. Not giving up on Ogbah either, he's still just 23 and an athletic freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: Our young DL is going to be really nice. Garrett, Ogunjobi, Brantley is a heluva nucleus. Don’t forget Shelton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, candyman93 said: Don’t forget Shelton. And Coley, He's going to be a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Don’t forget Shelton. He didn't lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 This the key reason I don’t want to see this FO our yet I haven’t seen a run defense this good on the browns ever lets just get a OC to hell Hue and some playmakers before we blow this all up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, brownie man said: This the key reason I don’t want to see this FO our yet I haven’t seen a run defense this good on the browns ever lets just get a OC to hell Hue and some playmakers before we blow this all up I'm with you, but the qb has to be addressed. I know you lover your boy, but he's been awful this season. If we get a shot at a top tier prospect, we can't afford to pass on them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I'm with you, but the qb has to be addressed. I know you lover your boy, but he's been awful this season. If we get a shot at a top tier prospect, we can't afford to pass on them again. I’m not passing on the next LT/Marshall Faulk in Saquon to reach on a quarterback and neither will Sashi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, brownie man said: I’m not passing on the next LT/Marshall Faulk in Saquon to reach on a quarterback and neither will Sashi Ok? Not really sure how to respond to an opinion stated as fact here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 47 minutes ago, brownie man said: I’m not passing on the next LT/Marshall Faulk in Saquon to reach on a quarterback and neither will Sashi Yes, because Sashi is now the world's greatest talent evaluator after passing on 2 of the best QB prospects in the past several years in Wentz and Watson. Yep, he's a genius. If you don't believe me, just look at his career in Jacksonville before here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Yes, because Sashi is now the world's greatest talent evaluator after passing on 2 of the best QB prospects in the past several years in Wentz and Watson. Yep, he's a genius. If you don't believe me, just look at his career in Jacksonville before here. He only worked contracts in Jax. We'll see how things work out, but most folks here weren't pounding the table for Watson (I know you were). Wentz was lukewarm at best, most wanted Goff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I'm with you, but the qb has to be addressed. I know you lover your boy, but he's been awful this season. If we get a shot at a top tier prospect, we can't afford to pass on them again. Two consecutive throws by Kizer sunk what I thought was not only a great called game by Hue, but also a great game from Kizer. He avoided blitzes/pressures beautifully with strength and pocket awareness and movement with eyes down the field. He threw beautiful balls.. With the 2 Ints back to back the rest of his performance is understandably lost. He's not seeing the game well which makes it even more frustrating when seeing his intangibles/talent. Lost in all of this is that it was easily predictable that things would go like this for Kizer....that he was no where close to ready this year even in the minds of those that thought he had the highest upside of any QB in the draft. Pushing him out there was a serious mistake... I kept telling people he wasn't ready but silenced myself when I saw the preseason flashes and Osweiler's ineptitude. Let's hope one day Kizer can still rise up down the road but the FA Garropolo or someone else is the better play to me than rookie Josh Rosen/Sam Darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 After passing on Wentz and Watson, you guys are absolutely insane if you think Jimmy is going to let the FO pass on a QB at 1. If you guys want Barkley at 1 you better pray Rosen / Darnold don’t want to play here or don’t declare. Sashi and company are not ballsy enough to pass on a QB for a 3rd year in a row. If we finish 0-16 it’s gameover for moneyball, Jimmy isn’t going through this anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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