Kepler Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Graham is 32, not 72. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kepler said: Graham is 32, not 72. NFL football players age like dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 55 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: This isn't about ability with Rodgers, it's about trust. For whatever reason, he doesn't trust Graham. What Graham did in week 1 should be proof that he's still got ability. Meh, the problem is Graham was pretty bad last year in contested-ball situations. Not sure catching one jump ball on a free play in Week 1 changes that. Right now, Graham doesn't really do anything "well." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: If you honestly think that at 32 years old Graham is less physically capable as 35 and 37 year old tight ends, you're delusional. Graham does not suck. He sucks at blocking, but he is still more than capable of being an effective receiving option if he was targeted once in a while. Graham has been targeted 6 times. I am judging him by his play, you are judging him by a number. His age, and then comparing that to another number. That is both delusional and ignorant. I would not target someone who can't get open either. Multiplied when he can't meet the demands of timing. Based on his play alone Graham sucks. Add in what we are paying him and he is pathetic. Now, that was what we have seen thus far. Maybe he will surprise us the next few games. Then we can re-evaluate, based on his play. Not on a number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Just now, 15412 said: Based on his play alone Graham sucks. Lol. Citation needed. Show me he's not getting open. He's open a hell of a lot more than you think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 13 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: No, kickers can kick it 60+ yards in the air. The reason they don't is the threat of the return. You do better off with the possibility of a penalty just by forcing the punter to keep his net yardage around 45 with the threat of a blocked return. Why teams aren't telling players that they are absolutely under no circumstances to do anything questionable from a blocking perspective, I don't know. Great point, you are 100% correct. But man, if only you could make your guys do it penalty-free, it would sure help. I think the big problem with ST, as you've alluded to, is that coaches want to make big plays; receivers want to make big plays and take too many risks; and the other guys get too juiced up and try to hard to do something impactful and getting some coach's notice. Just being conservative and playing it cool and safe on teams isn't going to get anybody's attention; and when it's the only chance you get to play, I can see how they'd get all fired up and amped up and try too hard and end up making the obnoxious penalties as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Graham 145 yards, 2 TDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Norm said: Graham 145 yards, 2 TDs Season prediction I'm guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Just now, Mr Anonymous said: Season prediction I'm guessing 165 2 TDs The more everyone says he sucks, the better he will do. This is how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Norm said: 165 2 TDs The more everyone says he sucks, the better he will do. This is how it goes. OK then he really, really, really sucks! Don't care who scores as long as we win and Jimmy Graham, really, really, really sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 175 yards 3 TDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Norm said: 1750 yards 30 TDs I think ya forgot the 0s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebpackfan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Outpost31 said: Lol. Citation needed. Show me he's not getting open. He's open a hell of a lot more than you think. When he pushes off maybe. Otherwise no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, mikebpackfan said: When he pushes off maybe. Otherwise no. How much separation do you think a top 16 tight end gets on average? They’re tight ends. They need contested targets to be effective. Randall Cobb for the Cowboys right now is averaging 3.9 yards of separation. 3.9 yards. Think about that ****. He led the league in yards of separation in 2015 and how often did Rodgers throw to him? You’re all basing your bull**** opinions on receivers based on television broadcasts without knowing what in the damn hell youre even talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebpackfan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: How much separation do you think a top 16 tight end gets on average? They’re tight ends. They need contested targets to be effective. Randall Cobb for the Cowboys right now is averaging 3.9 yards of separation. 3.9 yards. Think about that ****. He led the league in yards of separation in 2015 and how often did Rodgers throw to him? You’re all basing your bull**** opinions on receivers based on television broadcasts without knowing what in the damn hell youre even talking about. This has nothing to do with you saying: “He's open a hell of a lot more than you think.“ So he’s open a lot or he has to make a lot of contested catches? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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