beekay414 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, champ11 said: He’s a talented scorer but he’s not really good at it yet. I think in the right role he could be a nice efficient bench scorer. Like I think he’s be good next to Plumlee on the nuggets bench for example You know how I feel about him. I think he is what he is. I don't see any upside and never have. That's been my stance since his rookie year and I remember getting lambasted because I said he's already peaked. Honest question, because I'm too lazy to look it up, but how often nowadays do 3/4 year collegiate players take another step? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Actually, I will look it up. Starting in 2017 due to 2018 and 2019 being too recent. 2017 Justin Jackson, DJ Wilson, Kyle Kuzma, Derrick White, Josh Hart 2016 Kris Dunn, Buddy Hield, Taurean Prince, Denzel Valentine, Caris LeVert, DeAndre Bembry, Brice Johnson, Damian Jones 2015 Willie Cauley-Stein, Frank Kaminsky, Sam Dekker, Jerian Grant, Delon Wright, Larry Nance Jr, RJ Hunter 2014 Elfrid Payton, Doug McDermott, Adreian Payne, Shabazz Napier, CJ Wilcox, Josh Huestis 2013 Victor Oladipo, CJ McCollum, Kelly Olynyk, Tony Snell, Gorgui Dieng, Mason Plumlee, Solomon Hill, Tim Hardaway Jr, Reggie Bullock, Andre Roberson So, outta the last 5 qualifying drafts, we've gotten Hield, Dipo and McCollum consistently playing high quality basketball with Caris LeVert playing great in spurts when healthy. Outside of that, the hit rate on 3/4 year college players isn't good. They are all mostly role players with no further upside. The 3 with the upside all went top 10. I dunno, I don't see it with Kuzma and never have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Who has more value D’Angelo Russell or Kelly Oubre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, DirtyDez said: Who has more value D’Angelo Russell or Kelly Oubre? 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: 🤨 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: 🤔 🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 If the Suns could get a backup guard (at either spot, preferably PG) I think they could actually make the playoffs. The youngins are all killing us. DRose, Satoransky, Ish Smith, etc. Gotta have one. Who knew trading Melton would really be the only regrettable decision the Suns made in the off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 15 hours ago, 11sanchez11 said: If the Suns could get a backup guard (at either spot, preferably PG) I think they could actually make the playoffs. The youngins are all killing us. DRose, Satoransky, Ish Smith, etc. Gotta have one. Who knew trading Melton would really be the only regrettable decision the Suns made in the off season. what about IT? he is making only 2 mill per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 10:05 PM, resilient part 2 said: what about IT? he is making only 2 mill per. sure baynes and tyler johnson for hayward so the Cs can get off his contract and we get a useful bench player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 8 hours ago, 11sanchez11 said: bench player lulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 8 hours ago, 11sanchez11 said: sure baynes and tyler johnson for hayward so the Cs can get off his contract and we get a useful bench player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Blazers made a trade to lower their tax bill. Either giving up on the season or lowering now to make a bigger deal later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 How about this? Wizards receive PF Aaron Gordon Lakers receive PF Davis Bertans Magic receive PF Kyle Kuzma, C Demarcus Cousins, C Ian Mahinmi Wizards get a reclamation project in Gordon, they don't have a lot of talent with their bigs. Lakers get a lights out stretch forward for their title run. Magic get Kuzma, Cousins and Mahinmi are expiring and thrown in to make the cap work. Kuzma is a better fit next to all of their bigs. Maybe the Wizards throw in a 2nd round pick as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: How about this? Wizards receive PF Aaron Gordon Lakers receive PF Davis Bertans Magic receive PF Kyle Kuzma, C Demarcus Cousins, C Ian Mahinmi Wizards get a reclamation project in Gordon, they don't have a lot of talent with their bigs. Lakers get a lights out stretch forward for their title run. Magic get Kuzma, Cousins and Mahinmi are expiring and thrown in to make the cap work. Kuzma is a better fit next to all of their bigs. Maybe the Wizards throw in a 2nd round pick as well. Don't see it for the Magic. Kuz sucks. Bertans puts Lakers over the top though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, champ11 said: Don't see it for the Magic. Kuz sucks. Bertans puts Lakers over the top though. Kuzma can shoot though, and is way cheaper. Gordon is having a bad year and costs $20 mil per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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