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5 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

So your example is they replaced Michigan State with USC and Florida State? Wow, Saban the coward.

He explains the Alabama AD made the call for financial reasons, as in a lot of money made in a neutral site while very little money is made in an away game and it’s an absolutely awful example... they replaced Michigan State with USC and FSU. How does that prove Saban is afraid to face tough opponents?

The second article says literally nothing about Saban refusing to play tough opponents.

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5 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:
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"So from a business perspective, our administration chose to do that."

It’s not as if Bama is avoiding strong competition. Instead of facing Michigan State, the Tide will play USC at AT&T Stadium (Arlington, Texas) to open 2016 and Florida State in the remade Georgia Dome (Atlanta) at the start of 2017.

Quotes above from the first link. They replaced the home-and-home from an admin level, not a Nick Saban / football level.

Second one doesn't even have anything from anyone related to Bama.

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6 hours ago, buno67 said:

It’s not that. It’s Bama refusal to play home and home and actually play a legit road game for ooc

Prove this. You keep saying it but haven’t backed it up with anything. The only example posted has been Bama backing out of a H&H with Michigan State to play USC and FSU. Wow, such coward. Very scared.

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Just now, MookieMonstah said:

So your example is they replaced Michigan State with USC and Florida State? Wow, Saban the coward.

He explains the Alabama AD made the call for financial reasons, as in a lot of money made in a neutral site while very little money is made in an away game and it’s an absolutely awful example... they replaced Michigan State with USC and FSU. How does that prove Saban is afraid to face tough opponents?

The second article says literally nothing about Saban refusing to play tough opponents.

It's like a six paragraph article, and this is two of them. How did you fail to find the relevant sections?

Are you that illiterate? The discussion is the refusal to play home and home series. You asked if there was any evidence to point to them refusing to schedule home and home series. Here it is. Don't be an idiot. Try your best. 

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“For business reasons, we have played neutral-site games to start the season,” Saban said, according to the Lansing State Journal. “And when you play a home-and-home – which we played Penn State home-and-home a few years ago — when you play at home you do really well (financially), when you play away you don’t do very well. When you play a neutral-site (game), you do very well every year.

“We wanted to try to play the series, instead of home-and-home, at neutral sites. And we had other opportunities to play other teams at neutral sites. So from a business perspective, our administration chose to do that. It was certainly nothing personal. And not that it wouldn’t have been a great series, I think it would have been.”

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“Alabama has scheduled for championships better than anybody else,” Klatt said. “When they play Power 5 opponents, they’re on neutral sites. Those neutral sites, generally speaking except one, have been closer to Tuscaloosa than their opponent’s campus. That’s just how they schedule, it’s worked out incredible well for them.”

Having said that, the Crimson Tide can’t complain about when other non-conference games are scheduled, Klatt said. Alabama not reciprocating with a home-and-home is one reason why opponents won’t come to Bryant-Denny in his mind.

 

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2 minutes ago, RuskieTitan said:

Quotes above from the first link. They replaced the home-and-home from an admin level, not a Nick Saban / football level.

Second one doesn't even have anything from anyone related to Bama.

There's no such thing as an admin-Non Nick Saban level at Alabama. Get the **** out of here. They played home and home series up until Saban arrived. Everybody else plays home and home series in the country.

This is exactly a Nick Saban thing.

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Has nothing related to Bama??? Are you on drugs???

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“Alabama has scheduled for championships better than anybody else,” Klatt said. “When they play Power 5 opponents, they’re on neutral sites. Those neutral sites, generally speaking except one, have been closer to Tuscaloosa than their opponent’s campus. That’s just how they schedule, it’s worked out incredible well for them.”

Having said that, the Crimson Tide can’t complain about when other non-conference games are scheduled, Klatt said. Alabama not reciprocating with a home-and-home is one reason why opponents won’t come to Bryant-Denny in his mind.

 

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Just want to make sure I have the sequence of events here straight to ensure my own sanity???

Mookie Monstah: It's not fair to hold Alabama responsible for their garbage schedule because nobody wants to play them

AG20: What the hell are you talking about? The only reason people aren't playing Bama is because they refuse to play home and home series.

Mookie Monstah: No, it's because people are scared. Show me one piece of evidence that Bama doesn't want to play home and home series.

AG20: Here's this Nick Saban quote saying that they prefer to play neutral site games rather than home and home series after cancelling a home and home series that was scheduled before he arrived on campus. *Please note that Nick Saban has never scheduled a home and home series since arriving in Tuscaloosa. 

Mookie Monstah: That proves nothing.

@buno67 am I following this correctly???

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52 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said:

So your example is they replaced Michigan State with USC and Florida State? Wow, Saban the coward.

He explains the Alabama AD made the call for financial reasons, as in a lot of money made in a neutral site while very little money is made in an away game and it’s an absolutely awful example... they replaced Michigan State with USC and FSU. How does that prove Saban is afraid to face tough opponents?

The second article says literally nothing about Saban refusing to play tough opponents.

His evidence was from an article was from 4years ago. 4yrs ago MSU was clearly better than USC and prolly boarder line same with FSU but playing a game in East Lansing is a lot tougher MSU than FSU and USC on a neural site. 
 

like he said, Saban runs everything with that football program. An athletic admin ain’t over ruling Saban on anything. 

again facing opponents on a neutral site isn’t tough. 

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7 hours ago, RuskieTitan said:

Once again, do you have anything to support your claim?

Idk just the past 8-9years with the refusal to play a legit home and home series where every other program in the nation has. 
 

winning a legit road game OOC would have helped Bama’s resume this year. Sucks Bama doesn’t have resume that shows they deserves to be in the playoffs. 

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1 minute ago, buno67 said:

Idk just the past 8-9years with the refusal to play a legit home and home series where every other program in the nation has. 
 

winning a legit road game OOC would have helped Bama’s resume this year. Sucks Bama doesn’t have resume that shows they deserves to be in the playoffs. 

Literally just the past 8-9years with everyone's refusal to play a legit home and home series with Bama.

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2 minutes ago, RuskieTitan said:

Literally just the past 8-9years with everyone's refusal to play a legit home and home series with Bama.

“For business reasons, we have played neutral-site games to start the season,” Saban said, according to the Lansing State Journal.

It's a direct quote. How are you missing this?????? It has to be intentional, right?

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1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

It's like a six paragraph article, and this is two of them. How did you fail to find the relevant sections?

Are you that illiterate? The discussion is the refusal to play home and home series. You asked if there was any evidence to point to them refusing to schedule home and home series. Here it is. Don't be an idiot. Try your best. 

 

Why are you so angry? Relax dude. Again, they bailed on Michigan State to play USC and FSU. Thats not exactly a great example to back up the "Alabama is afraid of tough OOC games" narrative.

The second piece is literally one dudes opinion on how Bama could have a tougher schedule, legitimately proves nothing. You going to come back with insults or you want to talk like a grown adult?

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11 minutes ago, buno67 said:

Idk just the past 8-9years with the refusal to play a legit home and home series where every other program in the nation has. 
 

winning a legit road game OOC would have helped Bama’s resume this year. Sucks Bama doesn’t have resume that shows they deserves to be in the playoffs. 

Again. Prove that this is Bama turning them down and not other teams refusing to play them. Prove it.

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1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

Just want to make sure I have the sequence of events here straight to ensure my own sanity???

Mookie Monstah: It's not fair to hold Alabama responsible for their garbage schedule because nobody wants to play them

AG20: What the hell are you talking about? The only reason people aren't playing Bama is because they refuse to play home and home series.

Mookie Monstah: No, it's because people are scared. Show me one piece of evidence that Bama doesn't want to play home and home series.

AG20: Here's this Nick Saban quote saying that they prefer to play neutral site games rather than home and home series after cancelling a home and home series that was scheduled before he arrived on campus. *Please note that Nick Saban has never scheduled a home and home series since arriving in Tuscaloosa. 

Mookie Monstah: That proves nothing.

@buno67 am I following this correctly???

I never said the first quote. Alabamas schedule is garbage this year, hold them accountable for it.

The narrative is Alabama is scared to schedule tough OOC games. Prove it. They switched ONE home and home to two games against USC and FSU, both very good OOC games. The narrative is crap.

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Just now, MookieMonstah said:

Why are you so angry? Relax dude. Again, they bailed on Michigan State to play USC and FSU. Thats not exactly a great example to back up the "Alabama is afraid of tough OOC games" narrative.

The second piece is literally one dudes opinion on how Bama could have a tougher schedule, legitimately proves nothing. You going to come back with insults or you want to talk like a grown adult?

1a. The discussion that you requested evidence on was about Alabama refusing home and home series. There is the evidence. From the horses's mouth. As though Saban literally never having played in a home and home series that he scheduled was somehow inadequate. 

1b. Michigan State was as good or better than both USC and FSU, and again, he ducked the much harder game of going on the road, in order to play the easier neutral site games.  

2. It's one of the most well known people in college football stating the point as a fact. 

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