The Night Santa Went Crazy Mafia - Town and Dome wins!!

[Scoundrel]

@KOTN-93 come out and play 

[Matts4313]

1 minute ago, MWil23 said:

After it switched off you I went for the double with those two. Go back and read

I dont need to. I know what happened. You were trying for the triple, but people wouldnt let you. You settled on the double. 

I was there waiting to vote Naz if anyone tried to swing me last second. 

[Matts4313]

@squire12 => can you make your pretty graph with everyones claims? 

[MWil23]

Regardless, trying to lynch 2 scum D1 that I was pretty confident on was a good play. Even you’ll admit that getting a 2 for 1 is a great lynch trade, assuming you’re Town.

[squire12]

3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said:

@squire12 => can you make your pretty graph with everyones claims? 

Here you go sweetie

 

		claim	character	night 1/Day 2
1. @rackcs
2. @SwAg		alignment cop???		claims alignment compare on 2, not revealed
3. @The Orca		tracker	Rudolph	tracked wolf to malf
4. @MWil23				passed message to counselor
5. @Dome
6. @daboyle250			prancer
7. @theuntouchable
00. @Slappy Mc	Hit N1
9. @squire12
10. @JoshstraDaymus
11. @bcb1213		role cop		rolecoped mission as roleblock
12. @mission27 / @TLO = misslo		roleblocker		roleblock, rolecoped by bcb
13. @wolfeyestrk		jailer	blitzen	jailed Malfatron, was tracked by orca
14. @KOTN-93		vig???	blitzen	hit slappy, was rolecoped by counselor as being vig
15. @Counselor		rolecop		role coped KOTN as nightly vig, got message from Mwil
16. @Matts4313
17. @Nazgul	Lynch D1
18. @NS922
19. @Malfatron				jailed by wolf

[SwAg]

2 minutes ago, squire12 said:

Here you go sweetie

 

 

		claim	character	night 1/Day 2
1. @rackcs
2. @SwAg		alignment cop???		claims alignment compare on 2, not revealed
3. @The Orca		tracker	Rudolph	tracked wolf to malf
4. @MWil23				passed message to counselor
5. @Dome
6. @daboyle250			prancer
7. @theuntouchable
00. @Slappy Mc	Hit N1
9. @squire12
10. @JoshstraDaymus
11. @bcb1213		role cop		rolecoped mission as roleblock
12. @mission27 / @TLO = misslo		roleblocker		roleblock, rolecoped by bcb
13. @wolfeyestrk		jailer	blitzen	jailed Malfatron, was tracked by orca
14. @KOTN-93		vig???	blitzen	hit slappy, was rolecoped by counselor as being vig
15. @Counselor		rolecop		role coped KOTN as nightly vig, got message from Mwil
16. @Matts4313
17. @Nazgul	Lynch D1
18. @NS922
19. @Malfatron				jailed by wolf

Wtf

[SwAg]

Where the **** did I claim I compare people?  Are you guys on crack?

[Matts4313]

Just now, SwAg said:

Where the **** did I claim I compare people?  Are you guys on crack?

That was my initial assumption until you called me out. But you are stating you just get their alignment, correct? 

[The Orca]

36 minutes ago, squire12 said:

44 minutes ago, The Orca said:

1 hour ago, MWil23 said:

1. Counselor outed KOTN last night 

2. KOTN admittedly killed Town 

3. KOTN used a similar murder weapon as Santa 

4. There “was no mafi hit” (it was him)

Lock it down

@theuntouchable @Matts4313 @Malfatron @squire12 @bcb1213 @Dome @NS922

Thoughts on what's wrong with this post?

1.  I think counselor was trying to red letter KOTN as the killer of slappy.  How he went about it was less than ideal stating it was a track when it was not, then the rolecop to KOTN role being a "nightly vig".  Mwil using the word outed in reference is odd to me.  My issue is that there could be a few scenarios that counselor would have tracked KOTN to slappy.  he assumed it was a hit (yes it is later confirmed to be the case), but there are plenty of roles and abilities that would have had KOTN at slappys.   The rush to label it a kill given that it was not even a track, but a rolecop to being a nightly vig has me pausing a great deal on that situation

2.  Nothing to really dispute here as I think KOTN has admitted this

3.  I am not sure on the flavor aspect of this.  Will need to look more into it

4.  There are a few options that exist for this to be the case....Odd vs even nights, protected hit, roleblock/jail of the hit

Since it doesnt look like anyone else wants to participate

1. It does seem Counselor has info on Kotn's role, Kotn has admitted to being a nightly kill. This said, it seems like Mwil is pushing Counselor as town extra hard after he has been counter claimed 2 times on D2. Later on I believe, Mwil concedes Bcb may be town in his insane cop statment. There will not be 2 role cops imo as town. It's either Counselor or Bcb

40 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

I’m fine with a butters KOTN double lynch too for the record.

Maybe Town has 2 actual rolecops, I’m not married to BCB as insane.

 

50 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

I believe Squire about the IRL food allergy.

I bet that BCB is an insane cop.

I’m wondering if Malf is scum.

I think Orca is antitown Town, albeit I’m open to Orcas idea that Butters is scum due to a day invest.

2. Yep kotn admitted it

3. Kotn used a similar weapon to Santa? Lots to unpack here given other statments

2 hours ago, MWil23 said:

It’s worth noting that Santa killed multiple reindeer in the song...could be interesting to see whether or not Pickle would put them in the game.

 

2 hours ago, MWil23 said:

So, I’ll translate: People have claimed dead reindeer. Call me suspicious of this.

Two comments that show knowledge of the song, add in the post in question that's 3

On 12/6/2019 at 12:07 AM, Pickle Rick said:

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Most of the elves and reindeer ran for their lives (Nice Aligned) as Santa rained down thunderous bullets.  However, not all of them ran for their lives, some of them they had enough and wanted to join in the fun (Naughty Aligned).

D1 has now begun, N1will be at 10:00 pm eastern Saturday night

Very high likelyhood Santa is a SK and Naughty Aligned is as Pickle posted here elves and reindeer that wanted to join the chaos during the rampage. Santa is mostly likely not joining forces with the naughty elves and reindeer during the rampage. The posting tone and structure here is painting Santa as mafia imo, which I think is wrong

4. This relates to 3. "There was no mafia hit it was kotn"

A. This again paints Kotn as the killer of Slappy but more importantly as mafia hitting Slappy. Given the song and what is most logical, Santa is not part of mafia, so hard pushing Kotn as mafia is an intent to kill someone with a kill (Santa or vig) imo. Mafia would be hard on this

B. Mwil pushed like crazy for Kotn yesterday. Imo because he day invested him, then Counselor pushed hard with 1 fake and 1 cc roles on him. Mwil made 11 posts I believe pushing Kotn, as did Counselor I think (not sure the amount)

C. There are many reasons why there was only 1 hit and mafia didnt have 1 or failed. Malf was performing it and jailed, Mission roleblocked the person performing the hit, they missed the move, they hit a protector who was protecting themselves, they hit the protector protecting someone, they hit Malf who was jailed/protected, they tried hitting a PGO version (doesnt kill), etc

I think its wrong to assume in a matter of fact mafia didnt have a hit so it has to be Kotn

D (part of 3 as well). Kotn claimed a reindeer. So unless Mwil thinks Kotn has a fake claim of 1 of the reindeer, its unlikley Kotn is a reindeer and Santa. Blitzen was burned with a flamethrower so that may be the flavor of his vig kill

[MWil23]

Orca spent all that time writing that asinine post all while KOTN was counterclaimed and I was essentially proven correct on him.

LOL LOL LOL LOL

[wolfeyestrk]

5 minutes ago, The Orca said:

Since it doesnt look like anyone else wants to participate

1. It does seem Counselor has info on Kotn's role, Kotn has admitted to being a nightly kill. This said, it seems like Mwil is pushing Counselor as town extra hard after he has been counter claimed 2 times on D2. Later on I believe, Mwil concedes Bcb may be town in his insane cop statment. There will not be 2 role cops imo as town. It's either Counselor or Bcb

 

2. Yep kotn admitted it

3. Kotn used a similar weapon to Santa? Lots to unpack here given other statments

 

Two comments that show knowledge of the song, add in the post in question that's 3

Very high likelyhood Santa is a SK and Naughty Aligned is as Pickle posted here elves and reindeer that wanted to join the chaos during the rampage. Santa is mostly likely not joining forces with the naughty elves and reindeer during the rampage. The posting tone and structure here is painting Santa as mafia imo, which I think is wrong

4. This relates to 3. "There was no mafia hit it was kotn"

A. This again paints Kotn as the killer of Slappy but more importantly as mafia hitting Slappy. Given the song and what is most logical, Santa is not part of mafia, so hard pushing Kotn as mafia is an intent to kill someone with a kill (Santa or vig) imo. Mafia would be hard on this

B. Mwil pushed like crazy for Kotn yesterday. Imo because he day invested him, then Counselor pushed hard with 1 fake and 1 cc roles on him. Mwil made 11 posts I believe pushing Kotn, as did Counselor I think (not sure the amount)

C. There are many reasons why there was only 1 hit and mafia didnt have 1 or failed. Malf was performing it and jailed, Mission roleblocked the person performing the hit, they missed the move, they hit a protector who was protecting themselves, they hit the protector protecting someone, they hit Malf who was jailed/protected, they tried hitting a PGO version (doesnt kill), etc

I think its wrong to assume in a matter of fact mafia didnt have a hit so it has to be Kotn

D (part of 3 as well). Kotn claimed a reindeer. So unless Mwil thinks Kotn has a fake claim of 1 of the reindeer, its unlikley Kotn is a reindeer and Santa. Blitzen was burned with a flamethrower so that may be the flavor of his vig kill

kotn  isnt blitzen im full stop know he is not blitzen

[SwAg]

5 minutes ago, Matts4313 said:

That was my initial assumption until you called me out. But you are stating you just get their alignment, correct? 

Yeah

[The Orca]

2 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

Orca spent all that time writing that asinine post all while KOTN was counterclaimed and I was essentially proven correct on him.

LOL LOL LOL LOL

Counselor was counterclaimed 2 times...using your logic that's lock scum there

[SwAg]

21 minutes ago, theuntouchable said:

Swag is not a cop 

Yeah, I am, dumb dumb

[Matts4313]

7 minutes ago, The Orca said:

Since it doesnt look like anyone else wants to participate

1. It does seem Counselor has info on Kotn's role, Kotn has admitted to being a nightly kill. This said, it seems like Mwil is pushing Counselor as town extra hard after he has been counter claimed 2 times on D2. Later on I believe, Mwil concedes Bcb may be town in his insane cop statment. There will not be 2 role cops imo as town. It's either Counselor or Bcb

 

2. Yep kotn admitted it

3. Kotn used a similar weapon to Santa? Lots to unpack here given other statments

 

Two comments that show knowledge of the song, add in the post in question that's 3

Very high likelyhood Santa is a SK and Naughty Aligned is as Pickle posted here elves and reindeer that wanted to join the chaos during the rampage. Santa is mostly likely not joining forces with the naughty elves and reindeer during the rampage. The posting tone and structure here is painting Santa as mafia imo, which I think is wrong

4. This relates to 3. "There was no mafia hit it was kotn"

A. This again paints Kotn as the killer of Slappy but more importantly as mafia hitting Slappy. Given the song and what is most logical, Santa is not part of mafia, so hard pushing Kotn as mafia is an intent to kill someone with a kill (Santa or vig) imo. Mafia would be hard on this

B. Mwil pushed like crazy for Kotn yesterday. Imo because he day invested him, then Counselor pushed hard with 1 fake and 1 cc roles on him. Mwil made 11 posts I believe pushing Kotn, as did Counselor I think (not sure the amount)

C. There are many reasons why there was only 1 hit and mafia didnt have 1 or failed. Malf was performing it and jailed, Mission roleblocked the person performing the hit, they missed the move, they hit a protector who was protecting themselves, they hit the protector protecting someone, they hit Malf who was jailed/protected, they tried hitting a PGO version (doesnt kill), etc

I think its wrong to assume in a matter of fact mafia didnt have a hit so it has to be Kotn

D (part of 3 as well). Kotn claimed a reindeer. So unless Mwil thinks Kotn has a fake claim of 1 of the reindeer, its unlikley Kotn is a reindeer and Santa. Blitzen was burned with a flamethrower so that may be the flavor of his vig kill

 

4 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

Orca spent all that time writing that asinine post all while KOTN was counterclaimed and I was essentially proven correct on him.

LOL LOL LOL LOL

I have 2 interesting things that came out of this:

1. the idea of day invest are now getting brought up again. He is like the 3rd or 4th guy to mention them. Which they are rare to begin with. 

2. The idea that KOTN maybe an indy SK - Santa

Edited December 8, 2019 by Matts4313