acowboys62 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 hours ago, LaFellSBXLIXMVP said: This may interest some here. I post those daily on another site, it's more accurate to compare the daily deaths per million inhabitants than the absolute totals ignoring the size of each country. I also use the 7-day moving average to avoid the usual discrepancies on weekends and so on. So in this case Argentina is at a pace of 8 deaths per million inhabitants per day, leading the world. * Those are the top25 countries in Deaths/ Million excluding the smaller European states. * Commas are the decimal mark in the international system instead of dots I tried to change it but excel wont let me since it's a formula. Is this foreign MoL? I am all in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, acowboys62 said: Thank you, I don't understand what is so hard about the question. Can't say we have agreed on everything in this thread, but here, we agree 100%.I think the bolded part is huge, so much of these things start with the mental aspect IMO. If you don't want to get better, you won't. Thank you for recognizing that all of these preventable deaths matter. Understanding the focus currently is on the pandemic, but I really hope the same people who make the claim "one death is too many" carry that same energy from now until forever with regards to all preventable deaths. Change can happen across the board once we are on the other side of this and start building a healthier future. As an industry, there really isn't doubt about this in health care. Pretty much every front line medical professional has taken an oath affirming they do. The access to care barriers in the US are virtually all financial: no one is getting denied healthcare because of they made bad personal choices, up to and including people who commit crimes and get hurt as a direct result of those crimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: As an industry, there really isn't doubt about this in health care. Pretty much every front line medical professional has taken an oath affirming they do. The access to care barriers in the US are virtually all financial: no one is getting denied healthcare because of they made bad personal choices, up to and including people who commit crimes and get hurt as a direct result of those crimes. I spent 5 years working in a burn unit. Long story short, 80-90% of significant burns are either because someone was drunk and doing something stupid or something illegal (cooking meth). Still had access to top shelf care. Took care of inmates too. Too many alcoholics and drug addicts to count. None of that mattered then, it doesn’t matter now, won’t matter in the future. My job isn’t to judge your life choices, it’s to to get you well. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 53 minutes ago, acowboys62 said: Is this foreign MoL? I am all in. The MoL supports these efforts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I spent 5 years working in a burn unit. Long story short, 80-90% of significant burns are either because someone was drunk and doing something stupid or something illegal (cooking meth). Still had access to top shelf care. Took care of inmates too. Too many alcoholics and drug addicts to count. None of that mattered then, it doesn’t matter now, won’t matter in the future. My job isn’t to judge your life choices, it’s to to get you well. Reminds me of the Doctor Cox speech from Scrubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: Reminds me of the Doctor Cox speech from Scrubs Lol I never watched the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Lol I never watched the show 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Do you guys actually take an oath as a health professional? We dont here, we just have to prove the bare min of competence and prove a lack of racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: Do you guys actually take an oath as a health professional? We dont here, we just have to prove the bare min of competence and prove a lack of racism. I didn’t, I just had to show up sober one day with a stethoscope. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I didn’t, I just had to show up sober one day with a stethoscope. Cant imagine that was easy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, Kiwibrown said: Cant imagine that was easy. If history is any indication, that was also likely a Monday fresh off a Browns loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, MWil23 said: If history is any indication, that was also likely a Monday fresh off a Browns loss. There is only 79% chance that we lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 46 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: Do you guys actually take an oath as a health professional? We dont here, we just have to prove the bare min of competence and prove a lack of racism. MDs and PharmDs do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: MDs and PharmDs do. They legally have to, or is it ceremonial. I know they dont here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: They legally have to, or is it ceremonial. I know they dont here. It's ceremonial, given that the oath is a few thousands of years old and bioethics is a complicated, changing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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