incognito_man Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, NFLGURU said: Rodgers may not want to come back when he see how gutted this team is. Disagree on Love's experience. He needs real game experience, not snaps 3 months apart. Its going to take a lot of time for him once he gets the job. I think he has the tools, but theres a lot to learn from real game experience. Rodgers won't be able to join a team that has a better supporting cast than GB next year (or going forward). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyToThump Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Rodgers won't be able to join a team that has a better supporting cast than GB next year (or going forward). Yeah, unless you think he's going to the Rams or Bucs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpdaly23 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Rodgers won't be able to join a team that has a better supporting cast than GB next year (or going forward). I think in Rodgers mind the cast doesn’t matter as long as he is there. Denver is amassing a ton of draft capital AND Rodgers fiancé is from Denver so I think they are the most likely destination (plus Denver doesn’t come to Lambeau until 2027). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Cpdaly23 said: I think in Rodgers mind the cast doesn’t matter as long as he is there. Denver is amassing a ton of draft capital AND Rodgers fiancé is from Denver so I think they are the most likely destination (plus Denver doesn’t come to Lambeau until 2027). I agree with everything you said here. I'm totally fine trading him to Denver. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Cpdaly23 said: I think in Rodgers mind the cast doesn’t matter as long as he is there. Denver is amassing a ton of draft capital AND Rodgers fiancé is from Denver so I think they are the most likely destination (plus Denver doesn’t come to Lambeau until 2027). Yah know? I could root for Rodgers in Denver if the return was good enough for the Packers. Still, I'd rather roll with #12 in GB. We can win more with less as long as he's on the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaire_Island Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Cpdaly23 said: I think in Rodgers mind the cast doesn’t matter as long as he is there. Denver is amassing a ton of draft capital AND Rodgers fiancé is from Denver so I think they are the most likely destination (plus Denver doesn’t come to Lambeau until 2027). Everything is good in Denver except the system I believe. Matt brings a nice QB friendly system with mix of plays all around. If you want to win in Denver Rodgers needs go hero ball unless Denver can field a shutdown defense(which ofcourse they are capable of) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, NFLGURU said: Rodgers may not want to come back when he see how gutted this team is. Disagree on Love's experience. He needs real game experience, not snaps 3 months apart. Its going to take a lot of time for him once he gets the job. I think he has the tools, but theres a lot to learn from real game experience. You are arguing against a point I never made. OF COURSE Love needs game experience. I never said he didn't. What I did say was that he can still be getting better when he isn't starting. He will already have a much better mastery of the playbook than when he first joined, for example. Starting experience really accelerates the learning curve, but it isn't the only way to learn. The passage of time, observation and teaching, also play their part. How much time it takes him to improve once he is a starter is a non-sequitur question. How much time is 'a lot' ? How much improvement does it take for him to get as good as you want him to be ? Maybe it will only take a handful of games to be as good as you hope as a starter, because he's a fast learner, maybe it will take years, or very possibly he never becomes an upper tier starting QB. If you begin with one preconceived idea of what you want to happen, the danger is that you then pick your description and wording to fit that idea, instead of looking at the other possible outcomes. Edited November 22, 2021 by OneTwoSixFive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 7:47 AM, spilltray said: Also, we KNOW Love has arm talent, but showing pocket presence on the field was the most important thing we needed to see. It gives me hope that with reps he will get better. How can you know this? He hasn't shown much arm talent in his time in GB in the games both preseason and reg season. He hasnt shown either accuracy or strength, looking more like a JAG in this dept. Now admittedly we dont have a lot of data points yet Maybe you have been to practices? Seen something there that leads to a better opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, hitnhope said: How can you know this? He hasn't shown much arm talent in his time in GB in the games both preseason and reg season. He hasnt shown either accuracy or strength, looking more like a JAG in this dept. Now admittedly we dont have a lot of data points yet Maybe you have been to practices? Seen something there that leads to a better opinion? The ball can come out of his throwing motion so quickly and effortlessly that it will stun you. It may not look like a strong throw on film during the game. But I assure you, the arm strength is there. I don't think he's really cut one loose yet. And his passes look soft because they were a second or two late on the routes being run. I'm going to agree with you that in his very limited time, no elite talent has jumped off of the screen. He showed good pocket awareness and I dare say, good footwork and elusiveness. Both are traits you could get from an UDFA. There's more there than what he's showed so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpdaly23 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Jaire_Island said: Everything is good in Denver except the system I believe. Matt brings a nice QB friendly system with mix of plays all around. If you want to win in Denver Rodgers needs go hero ball unless Denver can field a shutdown defense(which ofcourse they are capable of) Denver is likely going to fire their coach- I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if they hire Nathaniel Hackett as HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, Cpdaly23 said: Denver is likely going to fire their coach- I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if they hire Nathaniel Hackett as HC. And we trade AR to HOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, NFLGURU said: Rodgers may not want to come back when he see how gutted this team is. Like injuries don't happen to other teams as well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Cpdaly23 said: I think in Rodgers mind the cast doesn’t matter as long as he is there. Denver is amassing a ton of draft capital AND Rodgers fiancé is from Denver so I think they are the most likely destination (plus Denver doesn’t come to Lambeau until 2027). And I think that's a LARGE reason why people believe Denver is the most likely destination IF Green Bay opts to trade Rodgers this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, vegas492 said: There's more there than what he's showed so far. I really hope you are right. I need to see a lot more before I let AR go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Again, this idea that Love hasn't shown arm strength is absurd. He throws easy like Mahomes and it makes the velo look deceptive. Tyrann Mathieu jumped an out route that 100% is a pick 6 if Love didn't have juice in his arm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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