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24 minutes ago, Danand said:

Ken McCusick (as well as the danes I write with) are very excited about PQ in the run game, and much more concerned in the passing game. The guys I talk with that digs deep into the all 22 as well as the analytics are not happy with Queen in coverage unless it is man coverage. I wonder how far they will go to have him "learn" to play zone this year.

Very similar to Kenny Young's struggles. Sticky in man coverage, but too often lost in zone. Queen is a much better more explosive/rounded version, but they definitely have similar strengths and weaknesses. 

I trust Queen to develop in that area though. He's been thrown to the fire with this Covid altered season, and he didn't play all that much in college to begin with. He's already much better now than he was Week 1 and should continue to grow. Hopefully he closes out the season strong for us, like he did for LSU during their championship run.

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17 minutes ago, DreamKid said:

Very similar to Kenny Young's struggles. Sticky in man coverage, but too often lost in zone. Queen is a much better more explosive/rounded version, but they definitely have similar strengths and weaknesses. 

I trust Queen to develop in that area though. He's been thrown to the fire with this Covid altered season, and he didn't play all that much in college to begin with. He's already much better now than he was Week 1 and should continue to grow. Hopefully he closes out the season strong for us, like he did for LSU during their championship run.

Yeah it really seems like they have tried to find a specific type of linebacker in that mold. I remember Young wasn't considered much more than a 6-7 round pick prior to the draft, so if that is any indication, the Ravens really wanted that type. 

A lot of things are happening in the NFL when you stand in the middle of a defense, so having experienced a lot of snaps and looks certainly helps to identify what is happening and what to do. Queen doesn't have that benefit yet, so it will be a learning curve. With us being limited at the CB/S positions, he might have to see more snaps. 

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33 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said:

Guys I think we might've made a mistake drafting JK Dobbins...he sux

 

Way too early pat on the back here...just ignore that part about not wanting to actually draft him. 😅

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45 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said:

Guys I think we might've made a mistake drafting JK Dobbins...he sux

I always wondered how it would feel for us to draft Nick Chubb, though I suppose this somewhat meets the feeling.

Though Tbf this is one of the best RB drafts I’ve seen. I had both Dobbins and Taylor on a similar RB grade to Chubb with top 5-15 RB potential, though I liked Taylor the best (though it was close, I had Dobbins as my top RB to start last years collegiate season). 

Then Swift is just a tick below those guys, probably in that top 15-25 range of talents. I think Swift is JKD with less breakaway speed and contact balance, but more leg drive power and arm strength... of the two I’ll take breakaway speed and contact power above additional strength, it’s a more special trait. Also in that range I had/have Buffalo’s Zack Moss. CEH had the special ability but I probably would’ve had him in the 15-25 range because he doesn’t give you the breakaway speed. That said he’s probably a little more special than I anticipated, while Taylor is perhaps a little less special than I assumed. Though such differences could be due to scheme and talent around them inflating/deflating their ability to standout, also I scout for our team... not how players will fit in with other schemes and offenses.

Eitherway, it feels great again to have a RB that is a true difference maker. He’s not the receiver Ray Rice was or the tank that Jamal Lewis was, but he’s definitely living up well to the Ahmad Green comparison I laid onto him.

This definitely makes my forum bet that he’ll produce a 1500 YFS season (if healthy, I remind) within his first three seasons that much more likely to happen/be justified. I knew with Ingram he wouldn’t do it this season, but we just got a taste of what JKD could show without Ingram to take away from his touches.

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13 minutes ago, DreamKid said:

 

Yeah, he definitely did. I wasn’t even paying attention to him and could see him popping off. That’s when you know you’re dealing with a real dude. Campbell going down should at least allow us to develop the young guys like Madubuike, Ward, and Washington. They might be needed come playoff time. Bring on the adversity.

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On 11/3/2020 at 3:18 AM, DreamKid said:

Very similar to Kenny Young's struggles. Sticky in man coverage, but too often lost in zone. Queen is a much better more explosive/rounded version, but they definitely have similar strengths and weaknesses. 

I trust Queen to develop in that area though. He's been thrown to the fire with this Covid altered season, and he didn't play all that much in college to begin with. He's already much better now than he was Week 1 and should continue to grow. Hopefully he closes out the season strong for us, like he did for LSU during their championship run.

Queen is also a lot more raw at the position, so his play in the passing game has to be graded a little bit on a curve at this point IMHO.

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On 11/10/2020 at 6:18 PM, drd23 said:

 

Good shot of Justin Madubuike putting the center in the backfield as well.

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Every Dobbins play this season, in case anyone is interested in a breakdown of how he’s looked over the scope of his now larger sample size:

 

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