candyman93 Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 31 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I don’t want to hear about VORP with LBs. I don’t know when this whole talking about LBs not mattering started but it’s incorrect. Look at the elite teams over the past decade plus. They have had great LBs. Seattle, Baltimore, Pittsburgh,Carolina,NE. Have all had great LB play. We need good LBs. We already have our elite DE. We have our elite CB. Greedy should be very good and Vernon is a great number 2 if we retain him. We need LBs. Mack can’t tackle, he’s a glorified safety. Needing LBs is 100% dependent on your scheme. Baltimore (right now), Kansas City, and San Francisco have below average to bad linebackers. However, they make up for it with defensive line play. It’s the opposite with New England and Tennessee. They have zero pass rush, but incredible secondary play and phenomenal linebackers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Thomas5737 said: Well in Troy's first season he had zero starts so that is a little deceiving. Also Anthony Henry forced more turnovers in his rookie season than Adams has in his career. Confirms... nothing. A safety definitely isn't worth 2 1sts. Especially when you have to give him QB money on top of it. Jets won that deal easily. I’m not saying he is better than Troy I’m just saying he is a damn good safety. A safety that has been misused in NY. Mink didn’t look anything special in Miami. Just a good young safety. He goes to the Steelers who know how to use their safeties and he explodes into a monster play maker. Let’s see what Adam does for a defense like Seattle, who knows how to use safeties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 59 minutes ago, buno67 said: I’m not saying he is better than Troy I’m just saying he is a damn good safety. A safety that has been misused in NY. Mink didn’t look anything special in Miami. Just a good young safety. He goes to the Steelers who know how to use their safeties and he explodes into a monster play maker. Let’s see what Adam does for a defense like Seattle, who knows how to use safeties I think Minkah just had a fluky good year. Not that he isn't good or that he statistically had a great year but he seemed to be like Gipson was the one year where the ball just found him. I think both are good players and giving up a 1st for Fitzpatrick isn't terrible but two firsts would have been, just like the Adams deal. I'd put my money on Nick Chubb winning me more games over his replacement than Adams and Nick Chubb would never net you two first round picks because of his position value and Safety should be the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just to add on to what I said before. Watch guys like Van Noy and Hightower. They totally wrecked the Rams. So did the Mccourty Twins. Then you have the Chiefs with their monstrous d-line of Chris Jones and Frank Clark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) Kind of mind blowing to me, but out of the top 7 pass rushing teams, only 1 of them made the playoffs. That team was the Eagles. Yet, when you look at the top 8 pass defending teams, you get the following: New England, San Francisco, Buffalo, Baltimore, and Kansas City. Fun fact, we we’re 7th. I honestly think we can have a top 5 defense in 1-2 years if guys stay healthy. We are going to use a LOT of draft capital on defense the next 2 years. Edited July 27, 2020 by candyman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, candyman93 said: Kind of mind blowing to me, but out of the top 7 pass rushing teams, only 1 of them made the playoffs. That team was the Eagles. Yet, when you look at the top 8 pass defending teams, you get the following: New England, San Francisco, Buffalo, Baltimore, and Kansas City. Fun fact, we we’re 7th. I honestly think we can have a top 5 defense in 1-2 years if guys stay healthy. We are going to use a LOT of draft capital on defense the next 2 years. Those trends flip flop all his time. One year pass rushing teams dominate the league next it’s pass defending. They kind of mutually help each other. If you have a great pass rush it can make the secondary look good even if the stats don’t back it up with sacks. And vis versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Those trends flip flop all his time. One year pass rushing teams dominate the league next it’s pass defending. They kind of mutually help each other. If you have a great pass rush it can make the secondary look good even if the stats don’t back it up with sacks. And vis versa. The league is bipolar. It’s why teams need to just establish an identity and be stubborn with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaWg_LB. Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 On 7/25/2020 at 6:10 PM, Dawgpoun8017 said: the only Safety I would consider giving up two firsts for is Ed reed in his prime or Sean Taylor , I will give you you a first for Adams but I am not giving up two I would add Ronnie Lott (eventhough he was a CB his first 5 seasons and had 23 INTs) and Night Train Lane and that WOULD be IT...for me too.... Eventhough I loved Eric Turner, Dennis Smith, Steve Attwater, Louis Oliver, David Fulcher, Tim McDonald, Kenny Easly and Early Thomas... (Bob Sanders gets a mention, but he was hurt a LOT)...I wouldnt give up 2 1rst + 3rd + Starting SS...that is a LOT for any Safety. And I am a safety Fan, I have been talking about the "Big Nickle", (which seems to be becoming so Popular, hell Steve Wilks wanted to run it last year, now Joe Woods wants to run one this year) as a Base Defense, since we were on the Old Football Future website LOL. The league is finally catching up with me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 We have 2 guys on the Covid-19 / Reserve list There are 7 players on the list as of now: #Browns RB Dontrell Hilliard, #Ravens Nigel Warrior, #Bengals Kendall Futrell, #Browns Jovante Moffatt, #Cowboys Jon'Vea Johnson and #Chiefs Aleva Hifo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, candyman93 said: We have 2 guys on the Covid-19 / Reserve list There are 7 players on the list as of now: #Browns RB Dontrell Hilliard, #Ravens Nigel Warrior, #Bengals Kendall Futrell, #Browns Jovante Moffatt, #Cowboys Jon'Vea Johnson and #Chiefs Aleva Hifo. I have no idea who Nigel Warrior is, but he sounds like an English superhero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 7 hours ago, DaWg_LB. said: Eventhough I loved Eric Turner Don't forget Don Rogers and Sean Taylor. I really do not think that any of them would be worth it, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) Preseason has been completely canceled. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/27/us/nfl-preseason-games-coronavirus-spt-trnd/index.html Edited July 28, 2020 by candyman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hightower not playing is killer for New England’s defense. Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Hightower not playing is killer for New England’s defense. Wow He’s just the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, candyman93 said: Hightower not playing is killer for New England’s defense. Wow yeah but I understand why he opted out, he just had a baby a few weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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