Thaiphoon Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 10 hours ago, e16bball said: They really just don’t get it. They should have been working with him for weeks to quietly find a landing spot that would be good for him and could bring us a decent return. Then this could have been resolved in a way that wouldn’t have resulted in both of the best Redskins of the last decade publicly requesting trades within a year of each other — and then leaving for 50% (or less) of their actual trade value. Actually, this should have been resolved in the offseason, before it ever got to this point. No competitor like Kerrigan was ever going to be happy in a reserve role, and no one in a contract year wants to be getting limited snaps and treated like a backup. You have to have some foresight and deal with imminent issues before they crop up. Maybe they’ve tried to do that and no one wanted him, in which case you can’t really criticize them. But pass-rush help is always needed by contenders — I just can’t imagine there’s not a Tennessee or San Francisco or Las Vegas willing to take on a short-term deal for a guy who would clearly contribute for them through the playoffs. They could've done ALL of those things. But they didn't. Because...reasons... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir L Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 let him go we can prob land oline depth in the 4th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4209 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 This is bewildering.😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, 4209 said: This is bewildering.😕 Hey, I know someone who seems to do a lot of “insisting”... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offbyone Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 10 hours ago, 4209 said: This is bewildering.😕 What's bewildering is that we actually assume these anonymous rumors are facts. The logic people forget to consider is why on earth he would want to be traded anyways, he will be a free agent at the end of the season. He can then chase a ring with the team of his choice rather than being forced to go somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 53 minutes ago, offbyone said: What's bewildering is that we actually assume these anonymous rumors are facts. The logic people forget to consider is why on earth he would want to be traded anyways, he will be a free agent at the end of the season. He can then chase a ring with the team of his choice rather than being forced to go somewhere. I think there's a difference between demanding a trade and requesting a trade. Do I think Kerrigan has demanded a trade? No I don't. Do I think he's let the FO know he'd be open to a trade if they decide to do so? Yes I'm sure he's probably had that discussion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 If I'm a team like the Chiefs, or Steelers? I'm easily tossing out a 3rd rounder for Kerrigan. You know the pick will be at the bottom of the draft order. Not too far from where the 3rd round compensatory picks are. To have a guy like Kerrigan putting pressure on QB's is a no-brainer, imo. Or what about the bears? To have Kerrigan & K. Mack at LBer? Holy moly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, aceinthehouse said: If I'm a team like the Chiefs, or Steelers? I'm easily tossing out a 3rd rounder for Kerrigan. You know the pick will be at the bottom of the draft order. Not too far from where the 3rd round compensatory picks are. To have a guy like Kerrigan putting pressure on QB's is a no-brainer, imo. Or what about the bears? To have Kerrigan & K. Mack at LBer? Holy moly... The Vikings just got a third and a fifth for Ngakoue, who is much younger and not limited to a specific side of the field. A fourth would be the market for Kerrigan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovfd55 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 46 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: The Vikings just got a third and a fifth for Ngakoue, who is much younger and not limited to a specific side of the field. A fourth would be the market for Kerrigan Yeah seeing what Ngakue went for and then seeing Griffin go for a 6 and Dunlap go for 7th and a player,I'd expect we arn't getting good enough offer for Kerrigan for the team to decide its better for us to trade him then it is to have him mentor Sweat and Young for rest of year. Kerrigan deserves to be starting somewhere though he could still hit double digits sack this season with more playing time and possibley get another good contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 hours ago, ovfd55 said: Yeah seeing what Ngakue went for and then seeing Griffin go for a 6 and Dunlap go for 7th and a player,I'd expect we arn't getting good enough offer for Kerrigan for the team to decide its better for us to trade him then it is to have him mentor Sweat and Young for rest of year. Kerrigan deserves to be starting somewhere though he could still hit double digits sack this season with more playing time and possibley get another good contract If they wanted to maximize his value, he would have been gone last year. They were deluded into thinking that the team was anything more than a dumpster fire, and should have sold what assets they could at the trade deadline to maximize assets for year one of a rebuild. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galodoido Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/1/2020 at 11:29 AM, e16bball said: They really just don’t get it. They should have been working with him for weeks to quietly find a landing spot that would be good for him and could bring us a decent return. Then this could have been resolved in a way that wouldn’t have resulted in both of the best Redskins of the last decade publicly requesting trades within a year of each other — and then leaving for 50% (or less) of their actual trade value. Actually, this should have been resolved in the offseason, before it ever got to this point. No competitor like Kerrigan was ever going to be happy in a reserve role, and no one in a contract year wants to be getting limited snaps and treated like a backup. You have to have some foresight and deal with imminent issues before they crop up. Maybe they’ve tried to do that and no one wanted him, in which case you can’t really criticize them. But pass-rush help is always needed by contenders — I just can’t imagine there’s not a Tennessee or San Francisco or Las Vegas willing to take on a short-term deal for a guy who would clearly contribute for them through the playoffs Tennessee could definitely use some help on pass rushers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 hours ago, ovfd55 said: Yeah seeing what Ngakue went for and then seeing Griffin go for a 6 and Dunlap go for 7th and a player,I'd expect we arn't getting good enough offer for Kerrigan for the team to decide its better for us to trade him then it is to have him mentor Sweat and Young for rest of year. Kerrigan deserves to be starting somewhere though he could still hit double digits sack this season with more playing time and possibley get another good contract But who cares if you get a 6th or a 7th? It’s a free pick for a player that isn’t going to re-sign here. It’s at least something. Even a player like John Ross or hell, Kwon Alexander that the Niners just gave away would’ve been better than letting him walk for nothing. What they’re doing now is what they’ve done countless times...Crowder, Cousins, Preston Smith, Desean Jackson, Pierre Garçon etc. They’re letting a player who has SOME value walkout and getting nothing in return. This is not what a team that is building should do. Get whatever you can for an expiring contract and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, lavar703 said: But who cares if you get a 6th or a 7th? It’s a free pick for a player that isn’t going to re-sign here. It’s at least something. Even a player like John Ross or hell, Kwon Alexander that the Niners just gave away would’ve been better than letting him walk for nothing. What they’re doing now is what they’ve done countless times...Crowder, Cousins, Preston Smith, Desean Jackson, Pierre Garçon etc. They’re letting a player who has SOME value walkout and getting nothing in return. This is not what a team that is building should do. Get whatever you can for an expiring contract and move on. If he hadn’t requested a trade, I could have imagined a scenario where he’s just such an integral and positive part of the locker room that it wouldn’t be worth it to send him packing for a rinky-dink little 6th round pick or something. I could see how a guy that just bleeds burgundy and gold could be a positive thing for the culture development process and can understand how they might not want to ship that guy off for basically nothing. But the guy evidently asked to be traded! What on earth are you keeping him for?! So he can disappointedly play out the rest of his contract as a backup and find a new home elsewhere in the offseason with someone looking to give him full-time snaps on a short deal? Edited November 3, 2020 by e16bball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 12:21 PM, aceinthehouse said: If I'm a team like the Chiefs, or Steelers? I'm easily tossing out a 3rd rounder for Kerrigan. You know the pick will be at the bottom of the draft order. Not too far from where the 3rd round compensatory picks are. To have a guy like Kerrigan putting pressure on QB's is a no-brainer, imo. Or what about the bears? To have Kerrigan & K. Mack at LBer? Holy moly... The Chiefs was a possibility. The Steelers have arguably the best OLB tandem in the NFL with Dupree & Watt. The Bears have Robert Quinn opposite Mack. They wouldn’t be trading for Kerrigan either. I think the Chiefs or Seachickens made sense, but it’s not going to happen now. Oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Here's the thing on this. If our strategy is to avoid free agency this offseason and shoot for a 4th round comp pick or something from Kerrigan, then this makes sense. But if we go after free agents and just let him walk for nothing than it was pretty stupid to keep him around and not at least get something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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