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2 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said:

And yes, I know that Beal was better defensively before, but two years of decline is a trend.  Its time to stop judging him on what he did 3 years ago and look at what he has become.  If he lowers the scoring load and picks up his D a little, he would then be putting up similar numbers on both ends to what Sexton has the last two years.  I was really high on Beal for a long time too.  And would have loved to have had him in Detroit, but watching him evolve into his late 20s is not showing up as the kind of guy you build around that many thought he was 3-5 years ago. All I ask is if you judge others for the way they play D now, do it for everyone and not pick and choose the best stats over a 5 year period and expect them to all happen in one season.   I don't think Sexton is a stud.  I don't think he should be paid a max contract.  But I do think he has a lot of value in the right situation just like Beal does, but Beal is more expensive in dollars and in trade capital and I am not sure the difference is enough to get return on your investment. 

His decline on defense has also had a lot to do with being on a terrible team where he had to carry a 30+ ppg scoring load, something only a handful of players have ever been able to do. Beal has 2 consecutive 30+ ppg seasons, Sexton has scored 30+ 12 times in his career. 

Except in a scenario that Beal's scoring numbers dropped that much it's likely because he's on a good team so I'd expect his defense would improve to what his career average has been. 

Scoring 30+ ppg on good efficiency isn't a player that you can build around? Washington looked poised to be a contender in the East before John Wall got hurt. And has Washington done anything to build around Beal?

Since John Wall's final injury the starters around him have included...

18-19: Thomas Satoransky, Jeff Green, Otto Porter, and Thomas Bryant

19-20: Isaiah Thomas, Isaac Bonga, Rui Hachimura, and Thomas Bryant

20-21: Russell Westbrook, Rui Hachimura, Deni Avdija, and Alex Len

Not exactly great teams around him if we're being honest. 

And we don't have to look back 5-6 years ago, lets compare their numbers over the last 3 seasons, when both guys were in the league at the same time on bad teams. Beal has averaged 29 points/5 assists while being a -1.6 DBPM player and Sexton has averaged 20 points/3 assists while being a -2.5 DBPM player. 

Based on your logic Devin Booker could never be a #1 scorer on a championship level team. He's a worse scorer then Beal, worse defender then Beal, and the Suns didn't even come close to sniffing the playoffs during his first 5 seasons in the league. But yet here we are, the Suns drafted well picking guys like Ayton/Bridges and brought in an All-NBA level PG to pair with him and they literally went from one of the worst teams in the league to the finals in a year. During this season Beal averaged 31.3 ppg and was a -1.7 DBPM/+3.2 BPM player overall on a terrible team. Booker averaged 25.6 ppg and was a -1.5 DBPM/-0.1 BPM player overall. 

Anthony Davis was playing at a HOF level in New Orleans and managed to get them to the post-season 2/7 years there, so clearly he's not a guy that you build around and could never be the best player on a championship level team, right? Oh wait he just did it last season with the Lakers. 

At the end of the day Beal is one of the few elite scorers in the league today and considered a top 15 player by everyone. Sexton's efficiency numbers may be similar but he has never shown even remotely close to the scoring or playmaking ability that Beal has and is also terrible defensively. No one in the league even had him in their top 100 players coming into the season. 

There's not one team in the league that would take Sexton over Beal, none. Cleveland called and offered a package built around Sexton/Love for Simmons and they said no, we want an All-Star caliber player in return. If the 76ers wanted to acquire Beal they would have to send Simmons + additional assets to Washington to get the deal done. 

The Warriors said they wouldn't even be willing to part with Wiseman or the #7 pick to acquire Sexton. If they wanted to acquire Beal it'd probably take Wiggins, Wiseman, and both picks. 

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Like the fact that teams are offering the #14 pick or the #19/#21 picks for Sexton and Beal is coming off of an All-NBA season says all that you really need to know, lol. 

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That’s why the Cavs are now exploring trade opportunities for their young guard. There is already interest out there and with playoff threats like Miami and New York showing interest, more destinations should start popping up soon. But, fans shouldn’t expect returns like R.J. Barrett from New York since Cleveland is negotiating from a disadvantaged position. It’s known that the Cavaliers are exploring trades for Sexton because they’re uncomfortable committing money to him right now. Cleveland also has to find a team that is willing to extend Sexton, like New York and Miami, and that narrows their opportunities as well. Opposing teams are probably well aware of Sexton’s limitations just like the Cavaliers and in turn, will be able to send underwhelming trade packages for the young guard.

 

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Only Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Karl Malone, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, and Brad Beal have been able to average 30+ ppg in a season while shooting over 48% FG. And you believe Sexton reach 30 ppg while maintaining his same efficiency? Pass me what you're smoking on my boy. @Sllim Pickens

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1 hour ago, agarcia34 said:

Need CP to out out and sign with the Lakers so we can cross them off a teams that can win a championship 

Chris Paul's old arse isn't sacrificing $100M 

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4 hours ago, NYRaider said:

Chris Paul's old arse isn't sacrificing $100M 

He only has two years left and there are people around the NBA that think he will opt out and then look to sign for 3 years at 100 compared to the 2 for 85 he has left. 

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1 hour ago, agarcia34 said:

He only has two years left and there are people around the NBA that think he will opt out and then look to sign for 3 years at 100 compared to the 2 for 85 he has left. 

Chris Paul has a $44M player option for '21-22 and then he'll be an unrestricted free agent. And the reports for a while have been that he's planning to opt out then sign a 3 yr/$100M deal so he can get one last big pay day. He sacrifices $14M next year but also ensures himself an extra $56M over the following two seasons. 

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CBA used to include a clause that functionally prevented teams from signing players who were over 36 to long-term contracts, but in the most recent version, that age was pushed up to 38. Now Paul can re-sign for up to three years before the Over-38 rule kicks in. 

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Paul has a $44.4 million player option, which according to several sources, he intends to decline with hopes of inking a new multiyear deal (perhaps in the $100 million range over three seasons). It’s unclear if his recent shoulder injury changes his plans.

 

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