ragevsuall17 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, KingTitan said: Find vet to play nickel. Then draft someone by round 2 or 3. I woulda rather looked at trading Adoree and keeping Butler, but we knew 1 would be gone, seeing as either saved us 10M in cap space. Adoree gives us speed and potential for more prime years. But that's my thought exactly. Sign a vet to play cb, and draft a guy with one of those first 4 picks to add depth behind Adoree, Fulton, (King), and Borders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, titans0021 said: I’m trying to wrap my head around the message that cutting your top performing defensive player while promoting the head of one of the worst defenses in the NFL sends to the team and the fanbase. It’s not good. Same. It just doesn't make sense to me to cut a good player to make room to hire better players on your crappy defense. You're just robbing Peter to pay Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 No way I’m just giving the job to Fulton and Adoree is coming off two injury plagued years. Horn.... come on down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTitan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, ragevsuall17 said: I woulda rather looked at trading Adoree and keeping Butler, but we knew 1 would be gone, seeing as either saved us 10M in cap space. Adoree gives us speed and potential for more prime years. But that's my thought exactly. Sign a vet to play cb, and draft a guy with one of those first 4 picks to add depth behind Adoree, Fulton, (King), and Borders. Yeah. Based off play, I would have looked to move Adoree, but Adoree has a future being so young. They did his option so the believe in him more than they did Conklin and Davis. There are some quality CBs on the FA and they could be had for the 1-2 year deal. So the loss won't hurt as much. I've been convinced they are blowing up the defensive side of the ball as much as they can and fitting it with some fresh blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTitan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Also like it or not, they like Borders too. Adoree, Fulton, (FA), (Draft pick) Jackson and Borders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeluxx3 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 SUCKS to lose Butler...one of the few physical players we have on D....but this was going to be his last year regardless. I wish him nothing but the best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetitans Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Guys this is the Belicheck/New England way that we knew about. As much as we all think it sucks. from a business standpoint you just can't pay a 31 year old CB that much money. We save 10M in cap space and its not like we don't have a little young talent behind him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanLegend Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I hate how people look at moves like this and think "we save x millions in cap!" as if the air is going to go out there and replace Butler. We still have to pay someone to fill his spot. And if it's going to be anyone even around Butler's skill level, it's going to take up most if not all of that cap money we just "saved". Just ridiculous. Why not add needing a new #1 corner to our list of FA needs that includes nearly every position on defense, a #2 WR and a TE. Great idea. Vrabel and Robinson trying to kill every bit of faith they've earned in this one offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KingTitan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, TitanLegend said: I hate how people look at moves like this and think "we save x millions in cap!" as if the air is going to go out there and replace Butler. We still have to pay someone to fill his spot. And if it's going to be anyone even around Butler's skill level, it's going to take up most if not all of that cap money we just "saved". Just ridiculous. Why not add needing a new #1 corner to our list of FA needs that includes nearly every position on defense, a #2 WR and a TE. Great idea. Vrabel and Robinson trying to kill every bit of faith they've earned in this one offseason. That's the nature of it. People also seem to forget how much people wanted Butler before he got hurt last season. 31 year old CB who had questionable speed to start. Nobody wanted to pay Watt $12-13 Million. Butler was going to get paid in that range. As annoying as it may be to some that people think we can find a corner, it can be just as annoying to some to think that Malcom Butler is irreplaceable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airness McNairness Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I don't mind the move at all. sucks it had to come when he was playing his best, but better a year to early, ya know? Fulton was drafted to replace him like many have said. so much recency bias with adoree also.. people would rather focus on 3 bad games than 3 good seasons from him.. blows my mind. he will be fine as long as he is healthy. don't rule out Malcom being back on a lower deal, even though I doubt it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 This was obviously coming and why we drafted Fulton last year...it’s been the plan all along. The reduced cap just made it all the more clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twotonebluenation Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, KingTitan said: Also like it or not, they like Borders too. Adoree, Fulton, (FA), (Draft pick) Jackson and Borders. Yup, we needed to trim the fat. And we better not stop here, Vaccaro has got to go. Butler ain't making or breaking this d sorry. If you put solid players in the front seven to support the back end, I believe it can work with the guys mentioned above when healthy. Whether it works or not I believe this team needs a shake up on both sides of the ball. It is time to infuse new talent on each side if we want to grow. A guy like Butler, given his age and salary is expendable, especially with the situation we had on d last year. If we cut Vaccaro where will that put as with cap? What are we at now, like about 18 mill in free space now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei01 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 It sucks, but I agree it's not the end of the world. Was our best corner, but I think Fulton, maybe even Adoree, can get there. Fixing the pass rush would go a long way into making the secondary look better too, so that should, obviously, remain the priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Glad, the guy has been decent, and awful at times. His mouth makes me want him gone more than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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