Blackstar12 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: Do you generally get sick every winter or multiple times out of the year? I usually get sick around Dec/Jan. A part of me wants to get it out the way now because it going to eventually come lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Blackstar12 said: I usually get sick around Dec/Jan. A part of me wants to get it out the way now because it going to eventually come lol. I can understand that! Hopefully not until after Christmas for you though since we're so close. I "fortunately" caught Covid a little under a month ago so I'm good in that aspect lol. Runny nose one day, fever and stomach cramps for the next day, and a small fever the next day accompanied w/ a hangover headache that was easily rid of by 2 Tylenol. After that, lost my sense of smell for 2.5 days and then I was back to normal. I honestly wouldn't have even taken a Covid test if I didn't lose my sense of smell as my wife never even got sick. It was extremely mild IMO. EDIT: Forgot to add that if you caught it, I hope your situation is the same. Wasn't trying to hijack. That's my bad. Edited December 22, 2021 by BobbyPhil1781 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 9 hours ago, WizeGuy said: Is that NY state or NYC? If it's NY state, then my county must not have been hit by it yet because our cases have been falling the past two weeks. NYS but NYC vast majority of the cases at the moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanLegend Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2021/12/us-army-creates-single-vaccine-effective-against-all-covid-sars-variants/360089/ Pretty neat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Debating buying a car tomorrow. You guys don’t think another business shutdown will happen again right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 8 hours ago, TitanLegend said: https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2021/12/us-army-creates-single-vaccine-effective-against-all-covid-sars-variants/360089/ Pretty neat. That is pretty neat... anyone else reporting this? This seems like a game changer, why is nobody else talking about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, ET80 said: That is pretty neat... anyone else reporting this? This seems like a game changer, why is nobody else talking about this? most media doesnt have a direct line to the military? Just a guess really. I tried to find something to substantiate but also failed. When that happened I researched defense one and they come up, from what I can tell, as an unbiased and credible source. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 5 hours ago, BayRaider said: Debating buying a car tomorrow. You guys don’t think another business shutdown will happen again right? You live in California right? I wouldn't be surprised if they shut you down while they still do their thing and still get paid. If you don't need a car right now, I would hold off anyway. Was picking up breakfast last week and the place had the news on and some lady said new car sales are like 16% higher priced than they were the previous year due to labor and chip shortages. If you can afford to hold out, I would until the supply starts ramping up. I was going to get a new one next year and I've been saving for a couple years now. In looking at KBB for my car, it's private sale price has increased by 40% since 2019 FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanLegend Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, ET80 said: That is pretty neat... anyone else reporting this? This seems like a game changer, why is nobody else talking about this? 30 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: most media doesnt have a direct line to the military? Just a guess really. I tried to find something to substantiate but also failed. When that happened I researched defense one and they come up, from what I can tell, as an unbiased and credible source. Yeah I'm not sure why it hasn't made more news, though it seems it's starting to. The first link is a 6 day old article from the US Army's website itself, then the next two are articles posted in the last 30 minutes(independent) and 5 hours or so(newsweek). https://www.army.mil/article/252890/series_of_preclinical_studies_supports_the_armys_pan_coronavirus_vaccine_development_strategy https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-vaccine-omicron-variants-us-army-b1980687.html https://www.newsweek.com/super-vaccine-effective-against-all-covid-variants-omicron-created-army-1662000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, TitanLegend said: Yeah I'm not sure why it hasn't made more news, though it seems it's starting to. The first link is a 6 day old article from the US Army's website itself, then the next two are articles posted in the last 30 minutes(independent) and 5 hours or so(newsweek). https://www.army.mil/article/252890/series_of_preclinical_studies_supports_the_armys_pan_coronavirus_vaccine_development_strategy https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-vaccine-omicron-variants-us-army-b1980687.html https://www.newsweek.com/super-vaccine-effective-against-all-covid-variants-omicron-created-army-1662000 Holy hell, this sounds really good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, TitanLegend said: 52 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: most media doesnt have a direct line to the military? Just a guess really. I tried to find something to substantiate but also failed. When that happened I researched defense one and they come up, from what I can tell, as an unbiased and credible source. Yeah I'm not sure why it hasn't made more news, though it seems it's starting to. The first link is a 6 day old article from the US Army's website itself, then the next two are articles posted in the last 30 minutes(independent) and 5 hours or so(newsweek). https://www.army.mil/article/252890/series_of_preclinical_studies_supports_the_armys_pan_coronavirus_vaccine_development_strategy https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-vaccine-omicron-variants-us-army-b1980687.html https://www.newsweek.com/super-vaccine-effective-against-all-covid-variants-omicron-created-army-1662000 I would imagine they'll need to re-do every safety/efficacy study if the vaccine is updated for a strain, so I'm not sure what value this offers beyond the mRNA method, since those can also be easily adapted based on variants. (That doesn't explain why the media isn't covering it since this is drug development regulatory stuff that is interesting to precisely no one, but I think it does limit the utility of this. Not that another working vaccine is a bad thing, it's just probably not the gamechanger you'd imagine.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanLegend Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: I would imagine they'll need to re-do every safety/efficacy study if the vaccine is updated for a strain, so I'm not sure what value this offers beyond the mRNA method, since those can also be easily adapted based on variants. (That doesn't explain why the media isn't covering it since this is drug development regulatory stuff that is interesting to precisely no one, but I think it does limit the utility of this. Not that another working vaccine is a bad thing, it's just probably not the gamechanger you'd imagine.) It was developed(testing started in April of this year, so was developed even before that) before omicron even existed and seemingly is effective against it., would this not imply that the vaccine does not need to be updated to provide protection against future variants? I have no idea how this stuff works, but that's what my uneducated self gathered from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 https://www.politico.eu/article/omicron-variant-coronavirus-symptoms-milder-delta-uk-data/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, TitanLegend said: It was developed(testing started in April of this year, so was developed even before that) before omicron even existed and seemingly is effective against it., would this not imply that the vaccine does not need to be updated to provide protection against future variants? I have no idea how this stuff works, but that's what my uneducated self gathered from it. I'm commenting on this part: Quote Unlike existing vaccines, Walter Reed’s SpFN uses a soccer ball-shaped protein with 24 faces for its vaccine, which allows scientists to attach the spikes of multiple coronavirus strains on different faces of the protein. If a facet of the soccer ball changes, they'll (likely, but I'm pretty darn confident) need to re-do the work they did already. If the current version works against Omicron, then there wouldn't be any need to change anything. But the value of the vaccine is "check out all the facets on the soccer ball we can change", and I'm saying, "well yeah, but you can't change them and immediately start selling the version you changed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: I'm commenting on this part: If a facet of the soccer ball changes, they'll (likely, but I'm pretty darn confident) need to re-do the work they did already. If the current version works against Omicron, then there wouldn't be any need to change anything. But the value of the vaccine is "check out all the facets on the soccer ball we can change", and I'm saying, "well yeah, but you can't change them and immediately start selling the version you changed". Tbf then the Pentagon could just call in a drone strike on FDA headquarters and proceed as they'd like 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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