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2017-2018 NBA GDT: Off the court discussions


11sanchez11

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  1. 1. Who's The Favorite to Win it All This Year?

    • Warriors
      40
    • Cavaliers
      10
    • Someone Else, Somehow?
      30


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The inability to get production out of Okafor and Noel (whether it was the 6ers fault, the player's simply not being good, both, etc., is a discussion for a different day) is going to haunt them. Their future would be that much brighter if either Okafor or Noel, preferably Noel, turned out like people expected, as their biggest issue right now IMO is the defense turning to mush without Embiid on the court. 

 

That core of Embiid and Simmons is going to go a long way though regardless, that's just what happens when you have 2 special talents. See: KD + Westbrook Thunder. Give it a couple years and this team will certainly be 50+ wins and possibly contending if a good team has been built around them (assuming they're healthy). 

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4 hours ago, 11sanchez11 said:

you don't get to say this until they win a title since that was his whole point. 

and I still don't give him credit for doing stuff anyone that has done a 2k franchise has done way before he ever did it, not really a difficult strategy. props go to management for allowing it

I agree. I never understood the Hinkie praise in regards to his tanking, plenty of GMs would LOVE to engineer the same thing. The main reason you never saw such blatant tanking was because A) it means accepting this is 100% not your year, which is easy to see from an outside perspective but evidently not so much for teams. Hard to get actually get players, coaches, and everybody on board and giving it their all if you make it clear this year (or the next, or the next)  doesn't mean anything, and I don't think just parroting "trust the process" makes it much easier, and B) your attendance and viewership will plummet, so if it doesn't work out you have just put the franchise in a ~10 year hole. It's almost everybody but the guy engineering the tank who deserve the bulk of the credit, since they are the ones taking the risk (the owner, the coaches, etc.).

 

Now Hinkie's overall approach as a GM, heavily reliant on advanced statistics and playing the trade market like the stock market, is what would be praise worthy as I would consider it pretty revolutionary. Him and Morey have no doubt had a large influence on the NBA. Being able to keep your job while making a team historically bad?... that's a blessing, not a talent.

 

 

As a small market fan I would love to have a GM like Hinkie, or Hinkie himself, but most owners don't have the balls to accept a tank. Of course it's not really viable anymore with the high variance in the lottery now.

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5 hours ago, 11sanchez11 said:

A couple things.

The Sixers are 1 game from not even being in the playoffs (if the playoffs started now).
Sam Hinkie quit, he wasn't fired.
The one player that puts them potentially better than a mediocre playoff team (the whole point of the process was because they didn't want to be a mediocre playoff team) has played 40 games in 4 years and still has playing time restrictions. 

Quit? Dude was forced out stop it. 

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Chris Paul is back tonight. He is suppose to play around 20 minutes. It will be interesting to see how they stagger that. Will MDA use this game against the Suns to work on CP3 and Harden's chemistry and play them together for about 20 minutes, or will he play Paul the 12 minutes Harden sits and only play them together for about 8 minutes. He said CP3 will start, so im guessing maybe he plays first 4 minutes, then the first 6 minutes of the 2nd, same thing in the 2nd half. 

It will be an interesting game for sure. The Suns are not a great team, and last year Booker struggled against the Length of the rockets D. He shot somewhere in the 30s. 

But the rockets have a habit of letting guys like Cj Miles, Chandler Parsons, Tim Hardaway and others go off, so I am betting Chriss has like 25 points tonight. 

We do get Road Ryan Anderson back tonight, so thats good as well. 

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12 hours ago, tonyto36 said:

I get he's big and strong, but why defenses just let Lebron to consistently waltz to the hoop either without contesting or giving weak fouls for easy and-1s instead of just knocking him to the ground is beyond me.  Not that I want him to get a dirty hit, but what happened to defenses punishing players for going to the rim?  Lebron gets escorted there.

Have you seen some of the flagrant fouls they've called so far this season?

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